Your English is indeed very poor if you believe I’m crying instead of laughing at you 
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I agree, it doesn’t matter, just like the cuirass bonus. lol.
because uragan/pps/ppsh box are smgs that for some magical reason are not affected by having high rof ending with minimal dispersion and no recoil something that doesnt happens with german smgs for some reason. and if applies the gun have a sad damage
and when it comes to fg high rof the thing changes for being a SF cuz normally those rifles have a insane recoil (and this considering that most have aroun 600-800 rof but fg with 900 here comes the problem high rof means that the damage accuracy and recoil of the weapon becomes a curse.
well im quite tired of arguing nonsense no comments at this point…
Grammar is the difference between helping your uncle Jack, off a horse, and helping your uncle, Jackoff, a horse.
Well no,
Definitely not the automatic rifles that were complete failure.
Regardles svt did the job, still the moist nugget remained the most manufactured rifle thru entire war for soviets.
So not exactly replacing the BA.
Thats the “One of the most manufactured” not “Most manufactured” point.
Such a complete faliure that they were produced in larger numbers than the FG?
Still more than the FGs. And if you want to look at it that way, let me repeat. The statement
Is wrong, because if you take literally any Soviet BR5 weapon that was not a protoype and was actually used in WWII it will be produced in larger numbers than it’s German counterpart. This is becasue the Soviets historically favoured mass production over overengineering, which allowed them to make many cheap weapons. Therefore, any claims about rare elite paratrooper rifles with 7k made being “some of the most produced” are still wrong. Even if 70k were made, they still would not even come close to “some” of the most produced weapons of WWII.
So why are the Soviets crying if they have the advantage when you use Historical Accuracy?
AVS36 was withdrawn from service after 1 ~3months long combat.
Sounds very effective.
Documents discovered after the war indicated that during testing, under continuous automatic fire, an AVT-40’s barrel would be “shot out”, meaning the rifling in the barrel would be completely worn down, in as little as 200-250 rounds. The use of the AVT’s automatic fire mode was subsequently prohibited, and production of the rifle was relatively brief; none were made after the summer of 1943.
What a succes.
Thats the differency between “one of the most produced” and “most produced”
You really dont understand what “One of the most” means do you ?
There are quite alot of automatic rifle prototypes that never went to production for what ever reason.
Regardless is there 200 million more soviet rifles that were more useful as spade than as rifle doesnt exactly change the fact that it indeed was one of the most produced automatic rifles.
You really don’t understand the difference between “number produced” and “usefullness” do you?
The FG could have been a literal lazer with infinite ammo and the AVS could be a rotten stick and that would still not make the FG’s one of the most produced weapons of WWII on BR5.
7k is nothing compared to what the Soviet millitary industrial machine could produce to the end of the war.
So if the game is going to be historical:
Berlin:
Germany:
5 players
1 vehicle slot
Soviet:
20 players
7-8 vehicle slots
or we will see t34 85 vs pz3
mp40 vs ppsh41
and oters…
The game wouldn’t be interesting if it were historical.
The fg42 has very little recoil, it’s almost a laser beam.
Well just ppsh box have verly low dispersion.
Bar
AVT
AVS
And what else was produced more than FG42 ?
Or is this somekind of its suits in top5 only if its soviet or western ?
Man I hate it when an important topic gets closed because of people arguing for nothing.
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yea but it doesnt matter that i can do the recoil so perfectly if my bullets will still missing due the shoot desviation is not skill issue in that case is a gun issue with its dispersion
so if you call the fg42 laser beam for having a low recoil u are wrong because the dispersion will still making ur bullets miss
in fact this is a perfect example of laser beam as far i know its dispersion is buggy (literally no dispersion) along with the fact that recoil is easy :_:
also as an extra fact the why i say that the FG42 recoil is the hardest is cuz the same thing that most ppl like you dont undestand the rof while other gun still having a decent recoil is way easier to control rather than the fg42 because is more innconsistent due the factor i alr mentioned multiple times
As I said before, its accuracy is not really a problem for me and I can headshot enemies at 200 meters. In the statistics table, the dispersion of the FG42 is also lower than that of the AVS.
Well, they said they’ve sent this issue to the developers.
I use my experience, it’s very easy for me to control, especially if you also give the soldiers recoil perks.
Even with that the Soviets would lose hehe And that you removed several weapons that were used
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1-the accuracy is an actual problem cuz u will tecnically play with RNG also the stadistics of the AVS-AVT havent been updated so that resource is not valid
but never fixed it so stills present until today… and as far i know this issue was sent long long very long time ago
obviously u can make the recoil control way easier with practice and the correct perks settings but still holding my point that dispersion is another factor that makes a weapon work or not cuz is literally playing with RNG
Reading back the topic is really sad
I and many of the people that agree with the buffs DO NOT MAIN GERMANY.
The fact that the forum dwellers brains are so tiny that they only reason we would want to buff something is because “its my main faction!!” is stupid and hypocritical.
Why can people not just read the facts that are objective: The FG42 and its second version are terrible weapons in comparison to the other factions. Its just an objective truth. Directly comparing the stats to other weapons (which I highlighted in the beginning of the thread) shows that the FG42 needs to be improved and brought in line with the other guns. I play all factions (mostly) equally, but I do not bother with playing BR5 Axis so much because all of their BR5 guns are weak, and have been powercrept. The fact that the community cannot accept objective truths is why the game doesnt improve based on feedback. The devs come to the forums, and see that a group of monkeys has descended upon every thread, derailing them and starting pointless political and faction based arguments that get nobody nowhere. I pray that the devs close these forums and collect game-feedback in a place where these types of people cannot roam around spouting their subjective, anecdotal, and wrong opinions.
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nice joke
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