Forever Automatic Rifles are counted as a semi-auto rifle and Assault Rifles are counted as sub-machine gun. After all this time, they should finally be properly labeled. They are a distinct class of firearm
In the game loadout menu Automatic Rifles should be properly labeled as such. Only some Assault Rifles are properly labeled to differentiate from sub-machine guns.
In the end of battle kill feed Automatic Rifles and Assault Rifles should be separated and have their own distinct classification. They can even have their own icon as well.
Also while we’re on this topic, obligatory once again there are a few weapons that are wrongly categorized.
The Federov is an Automatic Rifle, not an Assault Rifle. It must be moved to the Riflemen class
The M2 Carbine is an Assault Rifle as we have already established that the M2A1 Carbine, M44 Hyde, and Thompson .30 are all automatic weapons chambered in.30 and are for the Assault class. It must be moved to the Assault class
The M2A1 Carbine and Thompson .30 are Assault Rifles, not sub-machine guns as we have established an automatic weapon chambered in .30 is an Assault Rifle
The Gewehr 43 Kurz is an Assault Rifle. It is literally using Stg magazines. It must be moved to the Assault class
As opposed to literally every other automatic rifle?
I have thought that automatic rifles should be moved to Assault, but today is not that day. So for now the Federov, being an automatic rifle, should go where all automatic rifles go.
Eventually if automatic rifles are given to Assault then that’s great……but until that day
Of coarse if the devs just move all automatic rifles to Assault then that’s another way of solving this
fedorov has much more manageable recoil and would have the 2nd highest mag capacity for any automatic rifles, quite the massive upgrade for the ussr stuck with their 15rnd rifles
It’s technically different in that my main point is about in the kill feed and weapon categorization
On the second, I “repeat” topics because otherwise they will just fade away into nothingness, collecting dust, forgotten. Every so often I give a refresh reminder. It helps to gain traction and attention
For example, we may never get each factions missing mortars (US and Japan STILL don’t have a 80mm) if someone doesn’t bring it up every so often.
It goes without saying that the devs peeve us a bit
Regardless it is a fact that the Federov is not an assault rifle, the G43K is, and the M2 carbine is but have been erroneously labeled. Mistakes should be corrected
Federov has always been a semi-automatic rifle with selective fire.
Semi or auto carbines in .30 have never been assault rifles. For one simple reason. The concept of an assault rifle was still unknown in the West.
We see the concept of the assault rifle in Germany. The concept is simple. An automatic weapon with an intermediate calibre for a wide range of purposes.
The BAR is an interesting case. Yes it literally is called an automatic rifle but it’s use has always been squad automatic weapon. The BAR is more closer to the machine gun family
So I would say the BAR, being a SAW, would remain as MG
except the FG42 sucks compared to every other faction’s SF rifle, I’m strictly speaking about the stats in the game. I am not speaking about historical realism or whatever
The BAR is an automatic rifle, not an machine gun, but do we want nine man level three rifle squads running around carrying BAR’s? Well, I would since I love the BAR. However, if we did that, there is no level three Allied MG, so what do we do then, drop the Browning 1919A6 to level three? Not all guns in the game are designated to their accurate class, such as designating the BAR as a MG instead of Automatic rifle, which can be said for several guns in the game, however I think this was done to balance the game as best can be. It’s never going to be perfect.
BTW, in regards to the Thompson, I think everything I have ever read categorizes the Thompson as a sub machine gun.
I would argue that all full power rifle selectfires were mostly used in semi auto - heck even modern battle rifles aren’t used in full auto, unless in a light machine gun configuration.
Realistically speaking full auto should be mostly for SMGs, even modern assault rifles aren’t really used in full auto.
I will allow myself to express my opinion about Fyodorov’s Automat. First of all, Fyodorov’s Automat is called an assault rifle, and in Russia many people call it the first automat in the world or even the first automat in the world (in Russia automat = assault rifle). And even quite reputable experts.
Fyodorov’s Automat in the game is an assault rifle - because it has in its name the prefix “assault rifle” and it is used by Stormtroopers, because in reality, in the USSR, it was used by Stormtroopers during Finnish-Soviet War (Winter War)
And Why is Fyodorov’s Automat called an automat?
1)At the time of Fyodorov’s Automat’s creation there were no assault rifles in the usual sense, but Fyodorov’s Automat turned out to be an excellent assault weapon. Fyodorov’s Automat proved to be a new type of weapon. In fact, Fyodorov’s Automat foresaw the appearance of assault rifles.
2) weakened rifle cartridge, yes, the Arisaki 6.5 cartridge is still a rifle cartridge, but compared to other rifle cartridges it is weaker, smaller, and as a result the Fyodorov’s Automat has a smaller recoil.
2) The Fyodorov assault rifle can be called a kind of Assault rifle, because of its lighter weight compared to machine guns, as well as additional front grip for recoil control. In fact, Fyodorov’s Automat is in some way an ancestor of assault rifles, which appeared when there was no such classification yet. Fyodorov automat is a “pseudo assault rifle”.
However, if we did that, there is no level three Allied MG, so what do we do then, drop the Browning 1919A6 to level three? Not all guns in the game are designated to their accurate class, such as designating the BAR as a MG instead of Automatic rifle, which can be said for several guns in the game, however I think this was done to balance the game as best can be. It’s never going to be perfect.
