Premium squads (36 Days later of asking for changes)

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For all of the people who have read my first post about this topic, please ignore this post :slight_smile: I will repeat this sometimes so the developers hopefully will notice our wish, i will not let this topic vanish…

Here I am once again asking for some kind of attention for the premium squads. I play activly such a long time and now i feel like i havent encountered a single premium squad in months. The only reason why they arent used anymore is because they arent just not competitive with free squads, they are almost completely useless. I know “ThEy GoT aN eXpErIEnCe BoOsT” but that isnt really noticable since most of them got only 4 men which get slaughtered in seconds after spawning when they are controlled by the AI. Each round i get around 8 to 15k campaign experience and the premium squad boost is only adding like 0,5 to 2k for me, thats not a good offer for a 30$ squad, i wouldnt even mind if the boost is removed because its almost not noticable anyways, also in the future update of adding tunisisa, they said they will make it easier to get campaign experience easier to get, what means the boost of the premium squads almost have no use at all. Premium squads got cool and unique uniforms which i really enjoy but i never get to see them so why would that matter, maybe an ability to apply the uniforms to other squads when customization releases would be a little bit enjoyable. A squad without an engeneer is way to weak because you cant build spawn points or refill ammo with the supplyboxes, what means premium squads would force you to play alone insted of working together and helping your team with spawn points (I think we all know how annoying it is if no one builds spawnpoints) or ammo supplyboxes. Please change anything…
Now a comparison of free squads and most of the premium ones:

Base comparison:

Free special squad:

-4 specific soldiers with 3 different other specialists which you can unlock (like 4 assaulters and 3 others like engeneer, radio or anti-tank soldiers)
-many weapon options for each soldier
-replacable soldiers which can be ranked up and used in other squads, can be used to get more rank 5 soldiers through the academy
-ability to use rank 5 soldiers with best perks and rank 5/6 weapons each soldier can equip

Premium squad:

-4 same class soldiers
-only one weapon to use, no variety
-soldiers cant be replaced or used in other squads, cant be ranked up
-Only rank 4 soldiers used, no best perks like “+35 Vitality” , can only use one rank 5 gun each soldier of the squad can equip

As you see, the premium squads are worse than the free ones and offer less options and they wont let you get further than rank 4 soldiers since they cant help rank up normal soliders to get more and better rank 5 soldiers.

Also there are even more benefits of using a free squad:

  • there are “soldier class” I and “soldier class” II, soldier class II offers more perk points and a stronger base perk than soldier class I, you get more powerful perks at once. Premium squads are always only “soldier class I” what means they are simply one step worse and weaker than the free “soldier class” II’s

I know some may say that the machinegunner squads got 4 machinegunners insted of the 3 free machinegunners in the free squads. This is true and could be changed somehow (maybe remove one machinegunner and let him be used in a free squad so he isnt taken away from the customers inventory and add 3 soldier classes to the premium squads, just like in the free ones). But you cant forget that free machinegunner squads got almost unlimited ammo to keep firing forever since you can build ammo supply crates with the engeneer you can unlock.

Premium squads should at least be not that bad and maybe be competitive to at least free "soldier class I’s.

Different Ideas to solve the problem:

  • ability to choose 3 additional other soldier classes like in the free squads
  • ability use other guns and soldiers on them
  • ability to use premium guns in free squads
  • ability to use premium soldiers in free squads (all at once or only one in each squad, like the soldier class limitation mechanic in free squads)
  • ability to use their clothes on free squads when character customization releases
  • make them cheaper if there arent any changes in the premium squads
  • add unique voice lines for premium soldiers
  • make them rank 5 soldiers again
  • way higher experience boosts

Feel free to add any ideas ijn the comments how the developers could improve premium squads again without making them OP or better than the free squads and i try to add them to the list.

I sincerely apologize for any spelling mistakes, english is not my first language, but i really try my best…

Thanks for reading and i wish you a great day !

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Yeah, I agree that premium squads compositions should reflect their free counterparts. All soldier choices should be adjusted to it.

I can´t really agree here tho, that would defeat the entire purpose of the premium squads. At that point it would be better to just remove them and sell weapons and skins instead. But it is true, that using premium squad soldiers to some extent in free squads would further enhance your ability to level up squad faster and thus increasing value of the squad.

Why not? If devs actually got time for changes such as these, or in distant future.

Yeah, but that should be made grindable. (aka unlockable in premium squad tree)

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as i’m working on a similar thread my self,

there is something i would like to discuss.

it really depends which campaign do you play, because i actively see the Normandy MG and Enginner Squad extensively ( you recognize them through the skins and weapons )

agreed.

i really hope for this feature. this will make people pay more for premium squads if cosmetics can be applied to other squads.

well, as stated multiple times, those squads are designed for people that do not have much time to play this game. boot up the game, use those squads for a few matches and leave for turning back sometimes later.

and i think those are actually fine.
but not for extensive players though.

this one, i cant’ really see being a good thing.

because people could simple buy entire squads, and make even more powefull squads that normally people would not be able to archieve. and therefore creating a huge gap between players. getting into an enivorement where if you want to compete, you have to spend money either way.

which i’m not a huge fan of it.

and plus, premium squads are supposed to be unique for their weapons and cosmetics. i can accept the fact that they should have the ability to add troopers and perhaps differet special classes. but not further than that.

for the rest, i agree on pretty much everything outside the ability to move soldiers or weapons.

cheers.

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It were just some ideas how it “could” be improved, i just wrote as much ideas as i had, all of them arent necissarry at once i mean…

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I fully suport this.

Same, exacly the same. No more.no less than current free squad variants.

The only extra. 100% xp.

Also. Why no bomber, sniper Flametrowers radio squad premiums so far?

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Many classes are also useless, but premium units have some incredible price.
Although premium tank squads are better than regular tank squads.(pz 4 e, jumbo, valentine).

I against “pay to win”(how it work with pz 4 e).

But some flexibility for premium squads needs to be added.

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They are. Only by a few percentage.

In no right mind one would get the pz4 in berlin, where a f2p more capable panther its so easy to get. And a panther A premium is less expensive and more capable.

Also, according to fire range. Valentine cant pen that much… Not sure if it’s a reliable tank to own.

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A 4 man flamethrower squad would be truly awesome not gonna lie i would buy it for 50€

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Well, I had a game where the opposing team had a one player for germany(moscow) playing only premium squads.(pz 4 e,mg 30,mp41)

Germany win and he was at first place.

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That’s the problem…

You propose squad reworks. But you also state that a 4 man squad with flamethrowers would be awesome and be bought by you for 50 euros.

No.

If they release a premium variant. It shall be exacly like the non premium variant. And with a price that reflect the performance.

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I do that all the time… But premium squads change nothing in the way I play.

It’s for the extra fast xp if we want to rank up

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No i didnt mean they should add 4 man flamethrower squads, i meant the thought of playing 4 flamethrowers at once sounded pretty epic but not fair (i am flamethrower enthusiast :slight_smile: )

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WAIT what do you guys think about this:

future premium squads could still be 4 man squads BUT they will be 3 assaulters and 1 engeneer for an example, or 3 machinegunners and 1 engeneer.

i think that would be fair (still would be happy if they change it somehow else but any changes please)

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No.

Exacly like non premium squads or there is no reason to mess with them.!

Exacly
Like
Non premium
Squads

The only difference. 100% extra xp.

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It’s not clear to me what you want to get for this purchase?
Pay to win?Unique clothes?Unique weapon?Fast rank up?

For me, all premium things have always been just a thing for the collection.

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Unique soldiers
Unique squads
More squads to play with.
Faster rank up.
Unique weapons on that campaign.?

I don’t want pay to win.
I want to pay, have the same squad composition options as free to play squads, but with a unique weapon, unique uniform on the squad and or unique vehicle long side it.
Not limited to 4 man squads. But not pay to win.

I want to have the same. Options of. Soldiers exacly like non premium ones.

Good for you if. You want to collect. I do it too. But having the same power as non premium ones wouldn’t change That.

Right now they even sell extra xp for soldiers when you purchase a premium squad even tho you can’t change the soldiers inside the premium squad. What’s the point?

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The smaller the squad, the more convenient it is.
I don’t understand the meaning of the huge price of these squads.

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the smaller the squad, the faster you die and have to respawn as well

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So, do you add more soldiers to your non premium squads as you rank up or no?

How is/are they more convenient if I can have. More soldiers to play per life avaiable right in the frontline?

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If you hide your bots - yes
If you not hide your bots - no