Ppsh41 (drum) → BR4

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Very close.

Yep :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel:

ahh some one is quoting me :laughing:

That’s EXACTLY what I mean by br4 being in its own queue.

Matter fact I believe both 4 and 5 should be 2 separate queues

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that is too much for me, I think SMGs such as Cönders and LAD are fine BR5, they might suck at range but they are vicious beats in CQC.

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LAD and vicious beast do not belong in the same sentence. The LAD suckssss lol

Agree.

But I think you have accidentally put drum instead of box in your title. I think you should correct it.

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I see the reasoning behind moving SMGs down to BR4 with BR5 having assault rifles but there’s the problem of uptiers for BR3. I know you’re always at a disadvantage when being uptiered but I think Germany might struggle a lot with the PPSh at BR3 or BR4.

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I feel this way to, I’m really on the fence. On the one hand ARs take up so much of the scene that SMGs feel kinda redundant, but on the other lowering them to BR 4 would bring them into contact with BR 3 (Germany specificly in this case), yes being uptiered has its disadvantages bit this might be a but much…

I don’t know how I feel about it… I would need convincing one way or the other to make a descision, until then I’m in favour of keeping the status quo…

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what if we gave FNAB-43 800 rpm and moved it to BR3?

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Yeah they really need to fix the FNAB-43 sound and rate of fire and move it to BR III it has 837 RPM and move the MP 35/I to BR II really they need to slap them and Type 2 SMG also needs a RPM buff to 750. But I think the FNAB-43 can go even to BR IV with that rate of fire or Type 2 SMG can be moved to BR III.

FNAB-43 : full automatic shooting (with slow motion) - YouTube

And cant wait for Raising M50 to get its rate of fire 750-850 rounds per minute and a 30 round version for BR III :smiley:
Reising M50 : semi and full automatic shooting (with slow motion)

Type 100/40 and Type 100/40 Para rate of fire of 700 around … so a lot of changes

Talk:Nambu Type 100 submachine gun - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

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As much as I would like it, it defeats the purpose of the Beretta M38 that is already at BR III. 600 rpm vs 800 rpm, both with 40 round magazines. . . . . I know which one people will choose.

I will still probably choose the Beretta M38 because it just feels so nice, but not everyone is the same.

Also mp717 should move to br4 too.

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Just give Germany this at BR3. And put Fnab-43 at 600rpm (at base) so it would be competing vs PPS-42


I hope Uragan will soon move to BR3 so only smg that they would be missing are counter to PPS-43 and Fedorov Rifle (just buff armaguerra)

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Ofc. All Ppsh variants (Mp717r, parkarized ppsh ect) need to BR4 obviously.

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Definitely not, there’s no need for such BS move. All of them for just well on BR5.

I have no clue why BR3 should be forced to face even more powerful high capacity smgs.

Is your intention to make BR3 unpopular yet again?

Well, until Level 5 becomes locked into it’s own solo BR level, dropping any weapons from level 5 to 4 is almost irrelevant, since it is more then likely still going to be fighting in Level five matches. That being said, if BR5 gets locked into a solo level, then BR4 will most likely be fighting in level three matches, which essentially merges level three and four to a certain extent.

Yeah IMO the only BR’s that are ok fighting each other at this point is 1 and 2. The other BR’s above should be in each separate queue as follows

1-2

3

4

5

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