So ive manage to steal couple of them lately to try them out for a longer period of time. And i must say! They are way to accurate at mid range to countermeasure for the German variants. Heck i even perfomed as good as i do with my late game Mp35L (which is the one im using for longer range smg fights) at mid range with an simple PPD. That says a lot
PPD and PPSH is already rly OP in close quarters which is fine as they should or at least PPSH, but for balance sake you need to make them bit worse at mid range cause that shit is why new german players cant protect themselves nor assault properly in regular cqc situations. And im talking overall now not just specific
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Theyre good, but not as good as the german ones, atleast the MP40. Yea the fire rate is good, but its damage falls off very fast
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Mp35L beats Mp 40 and as i said i perform as good as i do with that with an simple stocked PPD at the same range so idk about that…
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MP35 < MP40.
The sideways mag, long reload, worse sights. Makes it worse at being a SMG
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but if were talking close range i rather haven an Baretta. That thing slaps even if it got low ammo count in the mag,
Cant agree on your statement though even if i do like the Mp40
Beretta? Seriously? 20 rounds? You can kill maybe 2 people before youre out.
MP40 for moscow is the best for CQC, fast reload, enough ammo, controlable fire rate when upgraded
then we have to agree to disagree 
and yes you stick and move with that thing. My pilot has one MP35L for long range engagement then i switch to Baretta when it gets closer and good ol pistol Walter when both ammo runs out then comes the axe when it becomes desperate if i cant pick someones weapon up ^^
Yea but 20 bullets is not good for an SMG and close range engagements. Slow reload woth MP35 and the sideways mag makes target aquisition difficult. Theres a reason the most succesfull SMGs dont use sideways mags
The Suomi KP26 and MP40 will remain the best SMGs until the KP31 is added
Well i just tried them i made this one right after i had an carnage with them. You dont understand do you. Im not doing this for my faction just to gain advantage, but for the game itself. I love challenge in games and the last thing i want is to make it easy for myself. But fair should be fair as balance is an hard thing to adjust, but middle ground is something that must be in place
If i see something that dont work out for my enemy from my teams perspective i would have mentioned that asw. But sure its harder for me to see since im not at the enemies side of things so to speak. This i just realized when using the smgs in more depth and had to addressed
the reload time hardly affects its mid-range capabilities where the german smg’s are supposed to shine.
Doesnt exactly fix the issue of PPD / PPSH series being too good at mid-range where the german smg’s are supposed to be superior doesnt it ?
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This is the funniest one yet, the only weapon category the allies have a better weapon in are SMG’s, axis ha better weapons in all other categories.
Sure buddy, the FG-42 II is a very balanced indeed, especially after nerfing its counterpart.
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Nah i can see now that you dont know the game prop or understand them atleast but guess thats your perspective asw
How ever i can only speak for Moscow so far and dont know about others so might be that to
We might have different perspective from different parts of the game that is
SA in moscow goes for soviets
BA in moscow again soviets
Auto-rifles again for soviets as theres no counter
LMG goes for germans
T-50
So lets just cut the crap how underpowered allies are.
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BA are the same. I can slap ppl from long range as good as i can with Kar with Dragoon rifle not sure where that one goes in the scale of the Russians though but yeah LMG to germans for sure but DP isnt long after but ive only tried it 2 quick times to be able to say rn ^^
Sovjet BA has higher dmg which is “balanced” by german BA’s having faster reload entire 0.2s faster.
Agree on this one. German BAs are better than their semis
Hard disagree. The K98k has an amazing fire rate, the gewehr33/40 is also better than the 1907. The bolt actions are way better than the soviet ones, with their low fire rates
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The Berreta and the MP-35 are much better at mid to long range, they have less damage dropoff and less horizontal recoil.
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yes can agree that Kar has better fire rate which makes it slight better. But Dragoon from the little ive used it hits like an truck at long ranges and usually downs ppl while Kar does to but its more non reliable at that.
Like said i havent used it long enough to see alot of different situations like ive done with Kar so can be mistaken to
K98 vs moist nugget, moist nugget actually has better fire rate while having 15dmg as stock while K98 has 14.
Which means at stock lvl the moist nugget is capable to OHK and K98k aint.
Due to super cool HP system this game has 10+5.
Also you have to upgrade K98 to 4star before it has 16.2 dmg aka being able to OHK.
While moist nugget can do it as stock version.
I am talking about Berlin if you didnt notice 