Hey everyone! I’ve recently come across this weapon on the RU forum (I believe DELAVR deserves credit here, but he can correct me if he sees this), and I believe it’s a good option at BR 3 for a Soviet SMG. The PPSh-41 Box (in addition to it’s bugged dispersion) is too strong for BR 3, and I believe this gun could be a good compromise that should compare well to the ZK-383, as well as the Type 100 Late.
With this being implemented (should be relatively easy from an in-game modelling perspective), I would move the PPSh-41 Box to BR 4. I don’t think it’s unfair to say it has comparable strength to the 39M Kiraly.
If I may add to the list.
Another BR3 Soviet SMG for the tech tree, the Tallinn Arsenal M23.
The M23 Arsenal submachine gun was developed in Estonia in 1923, it was based on the MP28 and SIG 1920, it had a large 40 round stick magazine, was chambered in 9x20mm Browning and had a fire rate of 600 rpm.
The weapon was mostly used by Estonian border guard units and some were sold to the Spanish Republic during the Spanish civil war.
With the Soviet occupation in 1940, the Estonian army alongside their submachine guns was integrated into the Soviet red army, their fate is unknown with only a few surviving today.
Considering its characteristics and the weapons it was based on, it should be BR3 and have stats similar to the SIG 1920 and Lanchester (50 round) SMGs.
Oh, my photos from Ru Forum end up here too… In fact, there are some problems, the latch did not go into the firing position and the magazine did not go into the feed line, this was the remark Ruslan Chumak (Head of the Artillery Funds Department of the Military Historical Museum of Artillery) made to me when I posted this photo on one of the weapons forums. On the other hand, it is very strange that the author of the book, no less respected Viktor Katarzhnov (currently an advisor to the general director of TsKIB SOO) tried to stuff the PPSh 41 magazine into the PPD 40 .
And the photo above is of Lithuanian partisans and the photo was taken after the Great Patriotic War.
In fact, the PPSh 41 has less damage than the same Type 100, so their time to kill is approximately equal. I say this as a frequent user of both of these submachine guns.
I decided to use “Enlisted Tools”, in general, the late Type 100 up to 20 meters has a rather noticeable advantage over the PPSh 41, which is probably the working distance of submachine guns.
In fact, the only thing that could be done to the PPSh 41 is to slightly reduce the accuracy of fire, but even then I am not sure of the need.
Mainly players playing for Germans talk about the strong PPSh 41. I could offer an analogue of Type 100 - Suomi M31 with an early 25-round magazine, of course, provided that the damage will be the same as the late Type 100.
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