I am not a fan of more powercreep, SMGs in general are the best weapon class in this game - but MP40 is not a BR2 weapon right now.
Can we please do something to make it worth using again?
I propose a dispersion buff to make it worth having a slower rate of fire.
Personally I think 60 - 70 dispersion is a nice stat for medium range combat - its what makes the ZK-383 feel so snappy.
This buff would be a good test to see in general how slow rate of fire SMGs perform with better dispersion - and if a successful test, this could be a reason to buff other slow rate of fire SMGs.
I was looking forward to the BR changes but seeing this has me concerned about the âacceptableâ powerlevel the devs have for br 2⌠Type 2a was already really good before it was buffed⌠but enhacing the rof by 25% only made it even betterâŚ
I wish the devs would curb the exessive power creep for low br but oh boyâŚ
They will only make it worse.
Also wierd that they dont also test the BR changes at the same time as the new update.
Kinda has me worried.
With what the Devâs have done with the BR2 level smgâs the MP40 as it is should be dropped to BR1. If nothing else, the MP38 is BR1 worthy as it will never see the light of day at BR2. I donât use either at BR2 because there are better âpower creepedâ options.
So if no German smg buffs take place in the near future, the MP38, MP40 and the FNAB are all now BR1 caliber candidate smgâs at this point.
Note, the batshit white MP 40 should be BR3 with itâs intimidating color.
MP40/MP38/M1 are pretty much now BR1 guns, they dropped Sten and Austen to BR1 but not them. Those three have low rof, bad dispersion, bad recoil for such low rof and low dps.
MP40 higher dmg per shot doesnât do anything as that bonus only matters if you go vs players without vitality and no TMNT armors. Have vitality and it instantly goes from 2 hit kill weapon to 3 hit kill weapon at higher distances than like 15m (too lazy to calculate).
And nobody wants to get close and personal with underpowered mp40 so you have to get away from the overpowered Soviet smgs (pps-42 with higher rof and being even more accurate due less horizontal recoil) and overpowered Usa smgs (thompson m1a1 with much higher rof and dmg)
M38/42 is also in dire need of recoi/dispersion buff, it canât compete vs PPS-42 (the best and most accurate smg at BR2)
While I keep using MP-40 on all my German BR2 assaulters (Beretta for the Italians), I fully agree that the most iconic weapons of WW2 should not be overshadowed by obscure/prototype/fakes ones.
PPSh-41 should USSRâs go-to weapon on BR5, everything else should come with a tradeoff
SVT-40 should be the choice for precision and reliability while AVT-40 trades full-auto fire for accuracy/recoil
the âUraganâ oddity should never overshadow PPS/PPSh
Fedorov 1912 which was never ever used in any conflict (let alone WW2) should not be the go-to BR2 Soviet weapon over Mosin M1938 (not Winchester)
PTRS/PTRD should be better than M1 Bazooka, which the Soviets basically only tested and didnât use
Kar 98k, MP-40, MG-42 should be the best in class weapons for Germany
the irony of the situation is that it was done by fans of Germany.
first they begged for the Beretta to be transferred to BR2.
then they begged for an improvement of these very Berettas.
and now what do I hear? âoooh my mp40 has become crapâ
We have always claimed that MP40 can not compete with PPS - what we got was guns that got closer in performance to PPS instead of finally nerfing those guns.
irony is that mp40 being âcrapâ has nothing to do with beretta and everything to do with pps42 and pps43 just being better in everything. soviets need some crap smg on low BR that have similar performance to german smg. it can be done with either introducing new smg and moving existing ones up one tier or nerfing existing ones.
preferably i would move all good smg for all nations(including mp40 and beretta) to BR3 cause i want BR1 and BR2 to be haven for BA rifles and shit smg.
Ah be quiet for once - pathetic, I know very well how you would go crazy that German SMGs deal 0.1 more damage than Soviet SMGs ( because that rightfully is enough to switch from 3 hit down to 2 hit down) but at the same time you claim how body armor is fair because 10%dmg reduction is too little to notice.
Completely false. MP40 started as a BR3 weapon. Beretta was the same. None of them are BR3 weapons. And Beretta M38/42 had made up stats (just like FNAB-43) that made it perform much worse than irl. MP40 was always crap when compared to PPS-42/43 but we didnât knew it as vitality was not used by many people years ago. Now with addition of M1A1 Thompson and many JP smg buffs they have no excuse to not buff it.
Yeah, the PPS-43 is over buffed to begin with. Even the PPD-34 with a maxed ROF of 920 is a bit much for BR1, the level two Chick smg PPSh2 with a max ROF of 600 would be a better fit at BR1, however it would have to be made TT if it were to become the Soviets BR1 smg.
The damage breaking points are stupid anyways.
Its so convenient how Soviet SMGs deal the maximum possible damage before turning into a 2 hit kill - while German SMGs deal the minimum possible damage before turning into a 3 hit kill.
This alone means that past what⌠10 meters both deal the same damage meaning PPS is just as potent at medium range as MP40 - while simply having more dps.
PPS43 is better up close and better at longer range than MP40 - ignoring even body armor.
