Please increase the base damage of the FG 42 variants to 12.7

At 12.0 damage base and 14.4 damage when upgraded, unlike literally every other automatic rifle when upgraded, it has no ability to instantly down/kill soviet soldiers with the armor cosmetic and the vitality perk.

It would not be able to deal the requisite 13.5 HP damage after the damage reduction the cosmetic armor provides, only dealing 12.96 damage, and requiring a 2nd shot before the soviet armored soldier is downed/killed.

Every other 7mm automatic rifle has 12.7 base damage and can all potentially oneshot every soldier when upgraded to deal 15.3 damage, excluding the FG’s other flaws compared to othe automatic rifles.

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and RoF 600

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The performance of FG2 is excellent so it is not necessary (although it is obtained in exchange for the amount of ammunition)

Unlike soviet players, many of us would actually think this wouldn’t be a nerf.

Also FG42 II really had 600 rpm, so this shouldn’t be a debate to begin with.

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Nah FG is strong enough as it is. This is not needed at all

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It kills in one hit vs US but needs two vs Soviets.

This is a ridiculous issue.

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I think the best way to deal with it is to remove the dumb ass body arnour.

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I suggested this 3 times. Once on this forum and twice on the ru forum.

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Well yes okay, but then whats the difference to adding more damage to it? The result would be the same.

No, because at cetrain distances, having extra damage stil matters. Its stil a buff that also works on US

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Well okay fair enough - again tho, the other select fire rifles actually deal enough damage to theoretically one hit kill vs Soviet body armor, its just the FG42 that has less damage.

FG42 II had indeed a rate of fire of 600~

while however the first pattern FG42 had a rate of 900~

what should be done is to make FG42 II deal the same damage as AVT and T20,

while giving AVT a 20 round mag

And nerfing first FG42 damage to Type hei levels so it can have its 900rpm

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The Soviets can oneshot every faction they face.
Likewise for the Allies.
Likewise for the Japanese, in spite of the lower damage, because they aren’t dealing with body armor.
The Germans can’t against armored Soviets.

To be fair here - you also need 15 dmg+ to kill in one shot against Paratroopers and Flamers - since they get bonus vitality, pretty equal to body armors effective damage reduction.

That being said, type hei has a bloody 30 round mag and as such should be classified as assault rifle, it uses the same ammo as fedorov right? Should then also deal less damage.

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i dont mean to change the topic, but can we also talk about the damage on the 8mm breda cartridge the pavesi rifles use? .303 british does way more damage than it even though 8mm breda has more energy

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Italian rifles always do less damage than they should :face_with_diagonal_mouth:
Take Breda PG (CR) for example, 14 damage while it fires full power mauser rounds, meanwhile Fedorov rifle casually deals 15.3 damage despite being a trash convert rifle.

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If you want to suggestion for the weapon please make a new thread about it

With increased damage, FG’s rate of fire should be reduced to 600 and its recoil should be partially increased. American and soviet counterparts currently have high damage only to compensate for their strong recoil and low rate of fire, while the jap rifle has lower damage due to its large magazine, soft recoil, good rate of fire, and weaker cartridge. FG’s recoil is barely noticeable, it has highest rate of fire among rifles, and asking for an increase in damage without any debuffs is biased. And let’s not forget that soviet cuirasses are still bought with gold if you don’t have orders to change clothes. Not everyone has money for them, and there aren’t enough orders in battle pass or events to outfit several squads at once. Moreover, not everyone likes their appearance, and people can easily spend their orders on other clothing or even for another faction. Using cuirasses to justify boosting FG is outright bias.

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Here, have some datamine numbers.

The FG is the underdog in the highlighted portions of the image.

It has lower damage, worse accuracy, worse accuracy penalties on hipfire, worse aim speed, and the only automatic rifle without a bayonet.

I’ll say it again.

The Soviets can oneshot every faction they face.
Likewise for the Allies.
Likewise for the Japanese, in spite of the lower damage, because they aren’t dealing with body armor.
The Germans can’t against armored Soviets.

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I need to write again about rate of fire, recoil, and about cuirasses being purchased with gold and orders? I can also mention magazines. Each rifle has its own drawbacks. Yes, AVT/AVS can kill with one shot, but they have a recoil of 88, a rate of fire of 660, and a magazine capacity of only 15 rounds, with a reload time that’s just 0.1 seconds faster than FG. Do they have cuirasses? They’re bought with gold and orders, and many new players don’t even know about their bonuses. How often have you seen players who have every soldier in each squad wearing cuirasses?
Japs rifles have a bullet velocity of only 660, a lower rate of fire than FG, and magazines holding 30 rounds, which result in a 3.1 second reload time. The T20 is the strongest rifle in the game, but even it has drawbacks in terms of rate of fire and high recoil. Also, americans don’t have cuirasses, if that’s so important to you. You simply ignore the drawbacks of other factions and exaggerate the flaws of your favorite faction. This is called bias. I won’t be surprised if, even after a possible damage increase for FG, you still find it insufficient and start demanding something else.

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