sure but thats what im getting at. Its not just turn. its everything
Those other planes are faster, turn better, climb better, accelerate faster in a low Altitude arena like Enlisted, AND there is a lead indicator that shows up 1500 meters away…worst conditions possible for 190 type flight model trying to energy trap you while showing you its ass and lead indicator
Yeah, this game needs a shorter aim marker assist tbh, I would say we would be better off without it for plane vs plane but people would eat me alive haha
just to show you what it looks like for speed (forget about turning 
, they all fly circles around it )
you can break 500 in the 190 if you dump your rockets, but everyone else is even faster again when they dump their ordnance
Huh, I mean the diference is not THAAAT huge but yeah I see what you mean, still, more to my point of B&F until it’s done haha
yeah its not. But Im just painting the picture to say you would at least “want” to compensate with great firepower if you are bottom of the barrel for everything else (one trick pony). I mean if you cant turn, you WANT to be fast!!!, and if you cant turn Or run, you WANT to blow them out of sky the first (and only) time you get a shot 
Certainly doesnt raise it above the other aircraft in any way, they have other options (190 also has a shoddy flight model to top it off)
2 cannons with the advantage are going to get it done anyway, 4 is nice, but doesnt do much to change your situation. Rockets are easier to farm infantry with (easier for casuals to aim), But ultimately less damage and smaller radius than bombs (50kg and up)
All I need is for the Fw’s to fly and behave normally…
All other suggestions are the cherry on the cake.
Yeah, as you and @_WARHEAD and I and pretty much everyone says, YES, the 190’s flight model needs alotta rework, but once it’s done, I believe that the plane could shine a lot, moreso if you exploit its capabilities the way they were meant to, B&Z for the 190s, turning for the 109s, blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne.
But I do really think that having 4 of the literal best AA cannons is quite BR IV worthy haha 1s burst and all you’ve touched is back in the immaterium, minengeschoß is no joke haha puts Hispanos to shame in almost everyway.
Its shouldnt be anyway. I am conviced the 20mms haven been toned down in Enlisted in some form.
Somehow They dont feel like the minengeschoß rounds we know and love in Warthunder. stuff blows to pieces there
Yeah, I feel like they are a little tonned down in here for some reason, but connect 4 of them at the same time BOOM goes the enemy
The problem can be solved by just modifying the fuel.
They’ve been neglecting it for years.
I do think that is a “another” problem as you say. But I think its more than that, because that shouldnt have anything to do with activating the rudder
It’s surprisingly relevant.
Just reducing the fuel to 50% will solve that problem.
did it fix it with the SU-9? im curious i havent tried since first release
Yes, it’s been solved.
The problem with all planes is all about fuel.
Why 2 years to fix fuel issue on 190 but 2 weeks on jets 
When this gonna happen exactly there is so many bugged planes that I already gotten used to their bugged controls 
But most of all I want FW with a big bomb A-4 if they just replace it with Fw 190 A-5/U2 with 500 kg SC500K bomb game over 
Surprisingly, it is an issue that has been well over four years, not two years.
It’s for every plane, so the Normandy Mustang D was hard to use
I’m so angry because those problems can be solved by just reducing fuel
I’ve been through this for at least four years
But it’s not a bug for sure.
In fact, that’s what happens because the plane is heavy.
Its not just the FW.FW is just the worse case but I can give a huge list of strangely behaving planes
Fw 190 F-8 it is balanced enough at br 3 but br 4 is pretty bad