And now for my companion piece of today, I’d love to see some changes to the somewhat underrepresented side of the Luftwaffe’s workhorses, the Fw 190s.
Fw 190 A-1 & A-4 (BR II)
-They are fine as they currently are, they perform excellent and I love them just as they are.
Fw 190 A-8 (Currently BR III)
-Now here is where I think a rebalance could come in handy, while I love the A-8, it just outshines the rest of the BR III roster, like dayum, with it 4 x 20mm cannons I honestly think that it would fit better in BR IV to keep its performance in check. And while it might sound like I will leave a gap in the Fw family, I think my next proposals would fill in the gap just fine.
My sugestion really begins here, I think we should have the Fw family expanded to fill in the gaps
Fw 190 A-5 (Proposed for BR III)
-A mid war version of the 190 that would slot right in into the gap left by the A-8 uptier, how you ask? well, in this source it cites a variant of the A-5 modified to carry 4 x 50kg bombs, coupled with its 4 x 20mm cannons (2 of them just having 90 rpg), would make for a fine addition to the german BR III CAS selection.
Fw 190 F-8 (Proposed for BR IV)
-And finally the companion to the A-8, with similar performance overall but trading 2 of its 20mm cannons for the ability to equip a 250kg bomb, therefore making it a viable alternative to the more AA focused A-8.
And there it is, my final suggestion of the day, a way to further balance and diversify an excellent family of fighters by getting some new additions and giving the existing ones a place to shine.
As always, thanks for reading, please let me know what you think about my suggestions!
I mean thats not hard, when the only other choice at BR 3 is a Pure fighter (with no ordnance)…
Theres not much to keep in check
it will still lose to “any” fighter (and alot of attackers for that matter) from any nation in a manuever fight…Especially the new Spitfire Mk IX (any spitfire), Yak 9K/T, La 5, Mustang, Hellcat(from pretty much any BR). And they still have decent ordnance
Its even the Slowest BR 3 fighter currently
So cant turn, and is slowest fighter (flight model instructor also messes with rudder so it slides). Not a good combo for Enlisted, only made somewhat viable by its firepower.
Only Just got it moved to a BR where it can shine a little…Would HATE for that to be undone
BR 3 German airforce is pretty thin on selection (second only to Japan)
At BR 3 its main workhorse was BF 110 G-2, when that got moved FW190 A-8 was the consolation prize (which is funny because its a fighter replacing a CAS that is more CAS than fighter)
I mean Im all for some more 190s…but, the flight models on alot of them could use alot of work before adding more of the same, I see no point otherwise. Just my opinion
Im a fan of the Gunpods (not that it would be any good in Enlisted with the current render distance)
More than reasonable considering its terrible turn rate, if you fail to shoot down the enemy aircraft before it gets into turning, you are dead.
If FW-190 turn rate was significantly buffed then they could be given higher BR.
I mean, I get your point and the flight model NEEDS a thorough revision, I actually love the A-8 and while I’m not a great pilot by any means I almost always dominate while in the air, unless I’m too confident and over-reach or don’t check my tail, but it’s quite obvious that the Fw 190 is a Boom-&-Zoom fighter, if you’re using it for turnfights then you’ve already lost my dude, altitude and out-energy-ing your opponent is the name lf the game here, poke and retreat it’s where it is at.
While that is true, all those BR 3 planes I listed can do that AND turn better so…
I dont rate planes by what they can do with the advantage (there are very few planes that dont have a good go with the advantage), More by what they can do on equal footing or disadvantage vs their oponents.
Again, I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that the purpouse of the Fw 190 is not to turn-fight, but yeah, we need the Bf 110 G-2 back, I don’t think it’s all cracked up to be at BR IV tbh
Yeah, I get you, but that’s the nature of the plane I guess, if turn fight where to be the tipping point then the Hs 123 would be BR V and the A6M2 Zero would be BR VI haha
sure but thats what im getting at. Its not just turn. its everything
Those other planes are faster, turn better, climb better, accelerate faster in a low Altitude arena like Enlisted, AND there is a lead indicator that shows up 1500 meters away…worst conditions possible for 190 type flight model trying to energy trap you while showing you its ass and lead indicator
Yeah, this game needs a shorter aim marker assist tbh, I would say we would be better off without it for plane vs plane but people would eat me alive haha
yeah its not. But Im just painting the picture to say you would at least “want” to compensate with great firepower if you are bottom of the barrel for everything else (one trick pony). I mean if you cant turn, you WANT to be fast!!!, and if you cant turn Or run, you WANT to blow them out of sky the first (and only) time you get a shot
Certainly doesnt raise it above the other aircraft in any way, they have other options (190 also has a shoddy flight model to top it off)
2 cannons with the advantage are going to get it done anyway, 4 is nice, but doesnt do much to change your situation. Rockets are easier to farm infantry with (easier for casuals to aim), But ultimately less damage and smaller radius than bombs (50kg and up)
Yeah, as you and @_WARHEAD and I and pretty much everyone says, YES, the 190’s flight model needs alotta rework, but once it’s done, I believe that the plane could shine a lot, moreso if you exploit its capabilities the way they were meant to, B&Z for the 190s, turning for the 109s, blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne.
But I do really think that having 4 of the literal best AA cannons is quite BR IV worthy haha 1s burst and all you’ve touched is back in the immaterium, minengeschoß is no joke haha puts Hispanos to shame in almost everyway.
I do think that is a “another” problem as you say. But I think its more than that, because that shouldnt have anything to do with activating the rudder
(not that it would be any good in Enlisted with the current render distance)
