Please add the Wespe artillery piece, if you could make it indirect fire that would be brilliant! Big Action mod has indirect artillery working perfectly.
Not sure Allies equivalent, Soviets have Su76, the Dicker good but kinda of out of place imho
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Adding SPGs and artillery would fun if players could locate and destroy them, but the maps are too small for player controlled artillery.
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Then ppl will just use it to shell the objective from the resupply zone. Imo very boring if not simply bad addition.
And adding artillery without indirect fire is simply wrong. It’s like driving F1 car in 50km/h zone.
So imo not adding Wespe is the lesser evil. Even though I like it (not as much as Hummel though).
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could just make it that if it shoots it briefly appears on minimap also the argument"maps too small" was also used against apcs and i think they work fine so no problem
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I’m one of the ppl who said that so I feel allowed to respond.
There are two issues with this statement:
- I (some other ppl probably also) were considering only the transport role, not spawnpoint. And from what I see, they are used mostly as spawnpoints, abandoned in a ditch.
- APCs are so damn slooooooooow. If they were faster, small and cluttered maps would be much more visible. (Though newer maps have quite a lot of playable area. Shame it’s not used at all.)
So my concerns were dealt with by some good and bad DF magic. Same happened with paratroopers.
So imo SPGs would also require some (or a lot of) DF magic to make them work. But will they remain SPGs? Or will they become (for example) HEAT equipped tank destroyers, only to place them in the game they don’t fit?
Personally I’d rather not have SPGs at all than have some mutants that have nothing in common with SPGs but the name.
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While SPA would be a cool new class and ideally it would work like a mobile mortar, but I would say for now SPA vehicles would work fine just as any other vehicle. Look at the M8 Scott its a SPA
Basically I say SPA would function just like every other vehicle so they should be added. Your Hummel will basically be a heavy tank destroyer in practice. They’ll only ever be used for direct fire
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I believe SPGs should be added for the novelty alone. Sure in practice they may not work like how they did in real life but its good for the sake of having new vehicles.
Plus there is always the potential of future overhauls and evolutions. Perhaps one day we will have a Giant Battle and you will have SPA bombarding the battlefield, but for now I don’t mind if we’re using the M8 Scott or Hummel just like any other tank as we do now
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Imo it’s a bad reasoning. We may as well add a railway gun or a battleship.
Sure, I’d be happy to have Wespe myself. But I’d like to have a use for it and use it correctly. I want plane so I can fly, I want truck so I can drive, I want MGs so I can do MG things, I want SPGs so I can do SPG things.
I want things because I like them how they are. I don’t want some poor joke that only pretends to be the thing I like to open my wallet.
But that’s my personal opinion.
SPG and SPA are kind of pointless to add because its a small map game
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No, SPA’s role in game is to shred infantry and shoot down the occasional plane. They work perfectly fine in game
I meant Self propelled artillery when I said SPA. But yes SPAA aka self propelled anti air is what I would agree on
Whoops lol
I still think SPGs would work fine in this game. Will they be bastardized and not work exactly how they did in real life, yes, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. Vehicle is vehicle. I mean that hasn’t stopped anything else in this game. We see amphibious LVTs in the middle of Hurtgen Forest. It is what it is
It’s like the Dicker Max and KV2 were meant for bunker busting but at the end of the day we use them to lob at infantry. The same will be said about a lot of different vehicles
It’s simply just nice for variety. Sometimes I feel like playing a Panther, other times a Hummel. For the heck of it
They won’t work at all like in real life.
Like plane that can’t fly and only drives on the the taxiway. A ferrari with a lawnmover engine. Sad and pathetic.
They could make the volleys devastating with excruciating cool down times like the radio operator which promotes shoot and scoot tactics.
In the mean time they would be armed with a coax and/or a command hatch MG to fight with.
I think we need better AA Vics let’s get some paper thin armored 88mm self propelled flack guns that work better against air targets then on ground
make the maps bigger, the maps are currently too small anyways