in war thunder u cant go straight in to a plane so why can u do it in enlisted.and why do u allow 2 vehicle squads when u can put 2 planes in instead of 1 plane and 1 tank. i think they need a major nerf cause non premium people cant counter them at all and there abusing the planes not playing objectives just bombing and getting kills to level u need to nerf these cheating ass people it give an advantage over everyone else when u cant counter the planes and there so low skill they have to use a plane in a infantry battle cuase they cant get kill any other way. and i cant believe people whined about arty planes kill more people than arty does and is more aggravating than arty doesn’t kill whole squad
but planes will kill your whole team in 3 secs like the low skill cheaters they are
Yes
Please, elaborate. Non-premium players can still spawn planes, and can still build AA guns.
Again, please, elaborate, how does a plane “play objective” without bombing.
The rest I’m not even going to bother commenting, the butthurt is real with this one 
They already made it to where you cannot go straight into a plane to nerf them. The game is COMBINED. ARMS. Not infantry. People can do what they want with the slots they paid for.
A lot of players can do that with my squads without problem, a PPD or even a knife is enough. In war I don’t see it’s a big problem to get killed in unfair ways, as long as I can enjoy the game in other occasions.
I killed like 9 people with a well placed grenade, now nerf that also? In another round I ended up with a single kill because my team and the enemy was so much better than me. Even the possible bots fared better (it was LF).
I like planes, they add to the game, much more than a mortar. One thing I wish is to reduce screen shaking and damage inside buildings caused by bombs. But please don’t remove them.
I think planes still need some nerffing. At berlin axis can get attacker and fighter same time and both carry 250kg bomb. Thats just too much for DEFENDER. Some capture points are so small that even one bomb will clear whole cap zone
I think I could live in a world where bombing/shelling the capture zone is not rewarded much. After all it is called capture zone, not a demolition zone. So remote kills with mortar, artillery or air bombardment would count as 0 kills there.
Don’t know whether that’s a good idea…
Not a good idea, but not far from the conversation that should be had.
First, why do ppl compare a feature of this game with war thunder, which works COMPLETELY different.
War Thunder has repair costs, we have it here not (GOD BLESS THEM!!).
War Thunder has spawn points, you can spawn only a limit amount, here not (GOD BLESSS…okay you got it)
In this game I have the feeling, that I can freely play without the fear of a loss.
You loose nothing in Enlisted, you maybe earn less.
If you hate enemy planes, jump in a fighter and hunt them. You will do your team a favor.
Enemy planes are only strong if your own team does nothing against them.
One point I love about this game, is its diversity. Some dont like arty, ban it! Some don’t like planes, ban it! Others don’t like tanks, ban it! MG’s are too strong, SMGs are too strong, … Lets play chess.
I hate chess…
The main reason most people constantly compare this game to Warthunder when talking about mechanics is simply cause it’s made by Gaijin and Darkflow
Yeah, but it feels a bit unfair for the developers and the cool own ideas they had here.
Alone that they NOT used the forum of war thunder, is a good thing.
lol canteenRambo actualy u cant if u dont bring an engineer squad u cant build shit like if ur leveling another squad.
2. there abusing planes worse than arty u can take 2 planes if u like but if u take a plane u cant counter the puma and pz3 spams
and im not butthurt ur the low skill player that like getting kills nothing else and ur mighty tough when we dont have a way to counter ur planes in war thunder u have to accomplish something before getting a plane not just 1 min make it like 7 mins or something or u have spend so much time in battle first or kill related anything under 30 kill no plane
basically u whin about how ur strong and blah blah but ur a cheater weather u now it or not theres no counter to planes they shouldnt be in the game at all
i agree totally with u but if u take a plane and no tank no way to kill puma and pz3 spam so its a catch 22 if u take this it screws u otta this theres no real counter for them i hate flying planes and i wont do it then i cant build an aaa gun cause of leveling other squads so basically its cheating cuase of un fair advantage with no counter unless you are premium
to solve the issues
it would work well here make it based on kills if u dont have enough kills no plane until u hit 30 kills then it gives u access to the plane but 1 min isnt enough time period maybe like 10 mins
Which is why you buy the premium and get extra slots for engineers and a plane. The idea is to frustrate the players so hard that they are forced to spend money. What you are seeing is the idea working.
Still not a good enough reason to remove planes. They can be easily countered by anyone. I see people killing it with SMG and MGs all the time. I rarely manage to do the same but that’s cause I suck at aiming.
I think that there is no need to remove planes. But i think that bomber should be nerfed. I agree, that there is no chance to fight them from the ground. Some said, that you can build a AA gun, but think about it. Built it cost you a lot of time, then you have to wait behind the real fight if the plane cross your aim (it is too slow to move it fast enough) and then you have to hit it. And even if you do, you will lose half of the game waiting for 1 kill. Noone will do that. So only fighters can do something about them, but again - not so many players will use it for hunting bombers - they will loose half the game to gain 1 kill. This is good for the team, but in the end game punishes you for it, because you get almost no EXP or rewards.
So i think, that good compromise would be reduce the impact of the bombs from the bomber. So it can´t kill you from that far or through the roofs or other cover. Some of your teammates can survive or you could use cover to save yourself.
Airstrikes should be deadly. Anti-air and air-to air should be deadly. Staying in the air and racking up a lot of kills should be HARD.
Suggestions for aircraft balance:
- decrease kill radius of bombs, it is ridiculous right now; wide concussion radius is fine
- increase XP gain for downing an enemy aircraft (and an XP bonus corresponding to his killstreak)
- add XP bonus for downing an aircraft of a higher campaign level than yours
- fix AA guns: increase ammo and traversal speed
(optional: make AA guns useless against infantry, add buildable static machine guns to the game) - implement 30s respawn timer after being shot down so you can’t instantly respawn in another plane
- make aircraft (slightly) more vulnerable
I just remembered the movie saving private Ryan the scene where Tom Hanks was shooting the German tank with a pistol, he should have died there and not later from the P-51 bombing that tank he was too near, the area damage in this game is so wide it should be balanced.
Yup the Bombs from a Plane are like Nukes… please Guys look next Time you play at the Radius of an Explosion. i look 1 Round in the Swamp to an Pilot who was absolutly the Overkiller…and know what?
Game was broken in this Round… Bots doesnt work right, it laggs …
Needs a Nerf its Terrible Game-Breaking but its Nice to have a Plane dont Remove!
i have never seen an mg or smg take out a plane ever and im not buying premium just to counter planes what good is an engineer if i upgrade squad then cant use him to build an anti tank or anti aircraft why can i build a mg nest with mg 42 but i cant build a aa gun or anti tank