Placeholder bots before players join should be removed

What the title says , bots that are added as placeholders for players should be removed , i’d rather play 3 v 10 then 3 players and 7 bots vs 10 players , they are such a pain honestly .

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Those bots are exactly the fun part for the other team

As much as bots are irritating, they provide ample targets that divert attention from real players. Tell me, would you rather have the ability to freely traverse the map while the enemy concentrates on reaping bots, or be sole attention of the enemy, leaving no time to even properly leave a spawn.
Besides, as bad as they are, they are sometimes better than real players, by playing the objective and building rallies, compared to selfish pricks that camp in the back.

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To be clear , i am not talking about the bots in your squad , i am talking about teh “fake players” that auto join if there are not enough players … those bots i would much rather have off as to not wear down the tickets .

I, too, was talking about the player bots. Let’s face it, even if bots are substandard, every bot squad diverts the attention of the enemy player by keeping up pressure and ample stream of targets. In the scenario you brought up, 3v10, every 3 fewer bots means one extra player on your tail.
You can defeat one squad, maybe two when you’re good (or they’re bad), but three means you’re almost surrounded. No matter how good you are, you can’t shoot out of your ass to kill guys coming from behind.
So without bots, you give every player ability to come out and hunt you down, squashing any chance of progress. If you want to see how it feels, play a game where half of the team camps behind, as say how do you like it when for every one of you there’s two or three enemies.

You obviously dont play this game long enough, i propose we simply remove the player bots and wait for a game longer until players pile up , my statement that i would rather play 3 v 10 was just hyperbola.

Dude, I play since OBT dropped. Still, if the game can’t gather enough players within, I think, 1:30 it engages the match and if within like next minute or two matching players enter the queue it will drop them in replacing the AI. AI is also deployed when matchmaked players take a long time to load or gets disconnected, but when they finally manage to load/reconnect, AI will not respawn after its current squad dies or will put the player into the squad it was playing. After that, well tough luck, better an AI than empty seat. It all comes down to not wanting to have 5-minute queues.

I get in matches with bots after half a second of waiting…

Congrats, you get thrown into matches someone waited 1:30 to start. Have a good luck and maybe more will join after you or finally load in. But seriously, if they remove bots it will either lead to extra long queues, half empty matches (4v4 etc) or unfair matches(3v10 etc), all of which will make many people angry. Besides, if AI would be smarter it wouldn’t be such problem, though it is hard to make challenging AI without going into AimBot territory, especially as Enlisted AI would need basic tactical understanding (from where enemy is attacking for example), creative initiative (flanking etc) and ability to competently use cover, of which they have neither. But it’s still better than getting gang banged by 3 guys for whom you are the only target.