Pay-2-Win und Sowjetunion zu OP

This thread was closed cause the new Player wrote in German.

Here is the Translation in English:

" I’ve been playing the game for 20 hours and I’ve noticed that the game making and balancing is completely rubbish. You start in a normal round of 10 vs 10 and are only lvl 5. You come here with the Bolt Action Rifle to the defence and attack point and suddenly only one enemy comes with a machine gun without great aim and slaughters the whole team away. You respawn and think now you have to try harder to win. As soon as you are out on your spawn point a Battlepass plane comes and bombs half the map away, 20 kills credited. After the action you go back to the point with 10 other allies and suddenly half of them die because of a Russian who has a machine gun that is as strong and fast as a machine gun (btw, I tested the gun myself, no big recoil or real effort needed, 15 kills in one shot). What you get in Stalingrad from lvl 2. The German faction gets a balanced grant that distributes minimum damage.

On the player list you can see that in one team there are 3-5 with the highest level in the enemy team and in your team there is at most one and sometimes none. Almost all of the enemy team are experienced campers, snipers or tank drivers. In your team? One or two good players and that’s it.

The tank fights? Which ones? The Battlepass tanks only need one shot anywhere and your tank is scrap. Trouble in the game? No, especially if you play the Soviet Union, the tanks really hold out in their weak spots, even the light tanks, while the Germans only need to be shot at the chain to be completely destroyed. Is the game Warthunder? Where every problem is solved by nerfing the Germans and boosting the Russians? To be clear I know most of the German tanks at the time didn’t really hold up and most of the time only won by a majority but so did the Soviet Union.

You only have to look at Starwars Battlefront 2 to see what happened with their pay to win. You can get as many updates as you want but if the game balances and pay to win doesn’t stop then I see black for the game.

My recommendation: Make the game pay and get rid of Battlepass and the possibility to buy items. FIX some factions / tanks and weapons, and either make rank battles or make a team sorter in the division of players and their skills."

**This is the statement of a new player with 20 hours of play. He is right in some of his points and experiences and this should not be taken lightly. This is exactly what happens to many new players who then get fed up and delete the game. This is not the way to win new players and certainly not a larger player community. It is precisely these reasons that make newcomers give up after a few hours. This is exactly why the game will fail if no solution is found. **

Closing the post by “Die Jagdente” with the comment "Hi, suggestions are only accepted in English.

Closed."

is not really appropriate or purposeful.

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CRY AND SHITPOST

Only thing that currently matters in all campaigns - how many bad and good players you get in your and another team. Nothing else.

Of course, that won’t be obvious for a new player, since new player doesn’t know the game and doesn’t know ways to counter all things he’ll face.

So things this game needs are equipment-based and skill-based matchmaker. But I’d prefer equipment-based only, cuz SBMM sucks even in the most populated games.

It’s one of the problems with having these very small maps that we have, or I should say very small battle spaces, because the Maps are actually quite large but we fight on a very small portion of each one of them, sometimes the enemy pushes forward and you really have very little room

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We have a shortage of players? Let’s introduce a matchmaker that will match you with even less players! Perfect solution 10/10.

well id gladly wait the 5-10? mins to get actual game rather than find game in 30seconds and waste 30mins of my time in shitfest of bots.

It even could be separated matchmake ranked / humanque or what ever.
Its up to you if your willing to wait prolonged time to get actual people in the game.

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well, we had more than enough players to add a new campaign and make the playerbase even more divided, so why not, at least the matchmaking will make things more fair for new players and more fun for veterans who will have to fight other skilled players

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You might do, most players don’t.

Since the matches really don’t matter nothing, we can leave and go to another one right away.

The number of players that leave matches wouldn’t change nothing in your waiting time.

You would wait, to play alone.

If I don’t leave a match, most enemy team will. And isn’t even a elitist talk, it’s the truth. That many players share with me.

The concept of ranking to marshal or what ever, again, could work if, the rewards will be worth and if there is a huge penalty if a player leave. Not a single point that means nothing in 70 days of a season.

Also, a match leave, should affect the win rate. As many still consider it a Stat to look for, maybe players would stay more in batles.

Me, I ill keep leaving as I wish, specially conquest. 3 point matches.
Tbh I couldn’t care less about the “this game playerbase”. Or lack of it.
There are Alot of amazing players, but there are way, way more average or mediocre ones that people mistake as bots.

I do play either against humans or bots as everyone call, and I m still sold to the game and I still belive there is way more playerbase than most think.
The issue, imo, 30 sec or less matchmaker that won’t full ongoing matches when someone leaves.

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To make sure I didn’t uninstall the game, the game is view pretty good. From graphics to game events. Problems with these games are unfortunately that either the balance between good players and bad players are too high or historically simply not the same. In this case unfortunately both, and the possibility to buy in-game money with real money which again can not be required is unfortunately a game spoilage in itself. Of course, a game that takes a lot to program can contain bugs but also players who, like me, have seen good changes in other games to see that the game really has a lot of potential. Unfortunately from my statement about Pay-2-Win and Soviets to Op have been badly received. Clearly in wars there are no uniform strengths and weaknesses but to make one side dominant and the other balanced is in my view simply thrown here. The Game has the portential to last Years but right now it is a Warthunder and Battlefield composting what makes the Game unfriendly to low level Players and unbalance factions, btw Thanks for the Person who translated my text in English!

Dont exactly see how separate matchmake would hurt it in anymanner.
Most can still que in normal manner and enjoy bot games or leave them.

Considering rather low playercount in the game ppl who would que to lets say “ranked” matchmake I highly doubt they would leave the games in same manner as currently due to most likely higher que time.

Well reward or not, id rather have games with actual ppl in it.
Which im fairly certain quite many others would like to have as well & im quite sure this would be rather easy / simple to implement to game.