Paratroopers are ruining the game

[Adamnpee]

I would love to just see flaresmoke in para dropzone so the Enemies could better prepare for them before they actually see opened parachutes.

[Josephs_Piano]

@Forlorn_Squad

The only downside I can see with paras is the capability of capping then next/just opened objective.

It should be a default cool down of 10 sec for every objective.

Parajumping on the next obj is OP.

lol - so now you are suggesting nerfs, despite saying there’s no problem with them?

Some serious cognitive dissonance on view here!!

[Josephs_Piano]

@Adamnpee

Countering paras really isn’t that hard. It just pushing players for more active gameplay.

Cool - I look forward to improving my defense against them when I read your guide on how to do so!

[_iFail_]

So basically what you are saying is that you prefer to be on the attacking side because you have the advantage of dropping an OP squad behind the defensive line and capping the point since the defenders are “camping” the points the developers have placed in order to defend their zones? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Defenders cant venture into the attackers zones yet the attackers can venture or deploy into the defender zones where is your so called fair balance? Also I didn’t say anything about any other out of balance squads and tactics like the flame thrower or bombs or non sensical pay to win squads as that’s not the topic here. Adding the para squads ruins the playability especially when they can directly deploy on top of a roof of a cap point and literally just prone and wait for points to count. I find your ignorance hard to take seriously as obviously you are part of the problem that abuses an exploit and calls it a fair part of the game.

[_iFail_]

So how do you counter them? Do tell?

[_iFail_]

Where you playing against bots? Defending against anybody other that bots is not easy and it never was. Obviously when playing against a server side DSync bs round then it’s a slaughter fest but playing a real round with no ping advantage is anything but easy.

[Adamnpee]

@_iFail_

So how do you counter them? Do tell?

Pretty much like every infantry your priority should be to notice them as soon as possible.
If you let them surprise you, you are done.

[ForlorN]

@Josephs_Piano

Having no problem criticizing certain aspects of both sides of the argument.

What I am saying: paratroopers making the game much more intersting. And since this game is defensive biased I also think it levels the play field.

BUT

Paratroopers shouldn’t be able to cap the next obj in a nano-second.

In that regard it makes them OP.

Problems holding two different thoughts in your mind at the same time?

@Josephs_Piano

lol - so now you are suggesting nerfs, despite saying there’s no problem with them?

Looks like it?
And where did I say there’s no problem with em?

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@Josephs_Piano

arrant nonsense - the is no great imbalance in attack/defense gameplay in the first place (unless you are an incompetent attacker of course…hmmm… ) they totally screw the defender because …

I guess you haven’t played that much against humans (even if you’re a veteran). It’s so easy to defend.

Two evenly matched team and defenders will win 8 of 10 battles.

[Conscript_Joe]

@_iFail_

you have obviously have not been on the receiving end of getting absolutely destroyed by Para squads.

Yes and no. I’ve faced multiple paras before… But haven’t let myself “getting destroyed”.

It’s simple, I have situational awareness. I HEAR the loud para plane approaching will all the explosions following it. I merely look up…
And if paras are dumb enough to drop directly ON our cap, they get wiped in the seconds they touch ground IF I missed any of them falling down.

Also, as a defender, I KNOW when a cap is going to be lost, and I start retreating in advance, preparing my stand on the next point fast.

Smart paras, flank from 50m to 75m away from the cap. But by then… They’re not more dangerous than any infantry class smart enough to flank.

Paras are fun, a great new class bringing a MUCH NEEDED new tactical dimension to the otherwise zerg ish swarm the point in a line behavior.

[Wieloglow]

@Conscript_Joe

Smart paras, flank from 50m to 75m away from the cap. But by then… They’re not more dangerous than any infantry class smart enough to flank.

They ARE more dangerous, especially when one objective is just lost, and another - just revealed.

Most of defending team is usually still engaged in fighting in the previous (lost) objective, while the paratroopers need only 20 sec. to land and build a safe rally behind the point.

2- 3 squads from that new rally and another objective falls to hands of attackers.

[ForlorN]

yeah. Agreed. That’s a problem
What we need is a general cool-down period of 10 sec (a like that cool down in confro)

[_iFail_]

again how do you play against them when you have to defend against the front line troops attacking head on and then having paratroopers deploy directly onto the capture point. You either have no idea what Im talking about or have not experienced it yet.

[AdRock2621]

@_iFail_

So basically what you are saying is that you prefer to be on the attacking side

At what point did I say that. Please explain.

@_iFail_

capping the point since the defenders are “camping” the points the developers have placed in order to defend their zones?

Since it appears I struck a nerve, I can tell you are the exact type to sit on an MG nest or snipe in the back of the map. So because paras threaten that advantage, you’re getting upset. Try actually playing the game for once.

@_iFail_

Defenders cant venture into the attackers zones yet the attackers can venture or deploy into the defender zones where is your so called fair balance?

What are you even talking about?

@_iFail_

Also I didn’t say anything about any other out of balance squads and tactics like the flame thrower or bombs or non sensical pay to win squads as that’s not the topic here.

It is actually, it’s called a comparison. Paratroopers are far from the most toxic squad or tactic we have currently.

@_iFail_

Adding the para squads ruins the playability especially when they can directly deploy on top of a roof of a cap point and literally just prone and wait for points to count

No, they don’t. It creates more options for attackers, and more counters for defenders. Dropping on a point is suicide and all it does it get you killed and wastes your teams tickets.

@_iFail_

I find your ignorance hard to take seriously as obviously you are part of the problem that abuses an exploit and calls it a fair part of the game.

Thank you for proving my point. You are most likely a German main who is throwing a temper tantrum because you lost your ability to exploit new players. You would probably complain about low player count, too.

Paratroopers aren’t going anywhere. If you can’t adapt, and just want to camp on MG nests, go play something else. We don’t need you here.

[Tabbot]

The problem with paratroopers is numerous;

at the very least there needs to be a penalty similar to bombers (where they have to approach at the edge of the map and it takes a good portion of time for them to fly towards the drop zone leaving them vulnerable to any enemy fighters that might be in the area).

The supply crate they come with seems “too useful”.
they should get a choice of 1 specialization that can only be changed out-of-match; they should not get to choose their specialization on the fly.

[ForlorN]

Honestly, no. There’s nothing game breaking about them. Try it yourself.
I’m far more successful with my other squads tbh. I have engineers and AT-gunners in those as well, you know.

The only thing that needs to be fixed, and I already said this, is the ability to speed-run the next obj.

[Upolaf]

The only thing I don’t like about paratrooper is the the fast cap.

I think maybe paratrooper shoudn’t be allowed to capture a point as soon as they land. Maybe a 20s timer could be nice.

But paratrooper is a new thing. Let’s wait a little before complaining.

[_iFail_]

@AdRock2621

@_iFail_

So basically what you are saying is that you prefer to be on the attacking side

At what point did I say that. Please explain.

Because you are defending the paratroopers squad ability to take advantage of dropping into zones otherwise inaccessible without actual tactics. Multiply that by several squads dropping in at once and the game is won.

@_iFail_

capping the point since the defenders are “camping” the points the developers have placed in order to defend their zones?

Since it appears I struck a nerve, I can tell you are the exact type to sit on an MG nest or snipe in the back of the map. So because paras threaten that advantage, you’re getting upset. Try actually playing the game for once.

No nerve struck. I just see it as igorant calling defenders campers when the whole point for the defenders is to camp and protect their cap point. What do you expect them to do run around like chickens with their heads cutoff?

@_iFail_

Defenders cant venture into the attackers zones yet the attackers can venture or deploy into the defender zones where is your so called fair balance?

What are you even talking about?

The fact that a defending team cannot go too far into the attackers zone to disrupt their spawns or routes but yet attackers can now deploy, setup and do just that with paratroopers.

@_iFail_

Also I didn’t say anything about any other out of balance squads and tactics like the flame thrower or bombs or non sensical pay to win squads as that’s not the topic here.

It is actually, it’s called a comparison. Paratroopers are far from the most toxic squad or tactic we have currently.

They are part of the toxic squads group.

@_iFail_

Adding the para squads ruins the playability especially when they can directly deploy on top of a roof of a cap point and literally just prone and wait for points to count

No, they don’t. It creates more options for attackers, and more counters for defenders. Dropping on a point is suicide and all it does it get you killed and wastes your teams tickets.

It’s funny you calling it an option. It actually reinforces my statement that deploying behind enemy defensive positions and taking advantage of the imbalance in your favor.

@_iFail_

I find your ignorance hard to take seriously as obviously you are part of the problem that abuses an exploit and calls it a fair part of the game.

Thank you for proving my point. You are most likely a German main who is throwing a temper tantrum because you lost your ability to exploit new players. You would probably complain about low player count, too.

Since when did I even mention that I like to defend? Just like majority of players I like to attack and capture but since I do not select what country to play as and join a game that’s been given to me when I defend it is obvious how paratroopers completely screw up the balance of the game.

Paratroopers aren’t going anywhere. If you can’t adapt, and just want to camp on MG nests, go play something else. We don’t need you here.

Dont worry not looking for moral support here and this game is quickly turning into another has been so you’re not hurting my feelings any.

[ForlorN]

And let’s not forget he´s pin-point!

Think you just missed to add that.

[_iFail_]

not sure I understand

[ForlorN]

you say paratroopers ruin the game?

How so exactly?

Forgot to ask and you weren’t specific.

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I’m just curious. Not here for argue.