Ok, I have maxed out axis on Berlin, I don’t care about XP, but want to have fun, I want a tank destroyer to run alongside my K2, there are several options:
Please state why, ie, profile, gun, armour, visibility / defence etc
Jadgpanzer IV - gold order with all the fancy sandbags
Panzer IV/ 70 A - campaign version not pink one
Panzer IV / 70 V - premium
I am currently trying out the Panzer IV/70 A, used to use V, but not really sure what to use…
Please offer suggestions, not other tanks…
This one, is my top choice over the panther.
Small, fast, good weapons and low profile.
( although, you have to aim for weak spots. And that mg is god tier as cool down is lower compared to others tanks )
Only downsides, no turret and does not have a great armor.
( wait, the one from the event right? Summer one )
Well, my Friend try to kill my Premium Panzer with King Tiger, i survived easy. But the Event Tank is awesome too(Sandbag) but have weaker cannon compared to Gold Order
I’m right there with you on that one !, I’ve even stripped out all the non-historical weapons out of my squads and limit special weapons to historical ratios as much as I can fit them into the broken Gaijin role focused squad system.
But to offer my recommendations: there are two aspects - looks and practicality.
From the looks perspective the Jagdpanzer IV and the Panzerjager IV/70 both look super cool and sport a very low profile. The armour on the Panzerjager is better than the Jagdpanzer IV and it also sports the same gun as the Panther, whilst the Jagdpanzer IV has the PzIVJ gun. The L48 gun is massively under RNGd in Berlin and I’ve had issues with smacking down the IS-1 and will potentially struggle with the IS-2, although I haven’t encountered it yet.
So from the looks department as well as the practicability side the Panzerjager IV/70 narrowly tops the Jagdpanzer IV - although some folks may argue on the looks. I’m using the Premium Panzerjager IV/70
myself over the others, I have all but the gold Jagdpanzer IV/70 A, which I don’t want to waste gold on atm.
The PzIV/70 A is a hybrid between the two. Even though it boasts decent armour in locations its a lot bulkier, taller and has the driver sight/MG face plate which effectively nullifies any armour on that vehicle. It also sports the Panther’s gun, so at least when it comes to shooting first you will win, unless RNG says no - I’ve had quite a few games recently on both my Panthers G and A, where the T-34/85s were bouncing me like crazy. The only random and redeeming feature on the PzIV/70 (core progression model) are the wire mesh sides that will block the first shot from a Panzerfaust. The gold one is garbage, , but you can get it as a collectors item if you have spare change.
The Jagdpanzer IV/70 A is behind in looks on both of the other TDs and you could maybe argue a stronger gun vs better armour against the Jagdpanzer IV, but it would depend on the map and whether you could hide that crap hull somewhere. From a flexibility perspective the Jagdpanzer IV is better employable across more of the Berlin maps.
Jagdpanzer IV L70 is OP because T34 can not deal any damage to it.
Jagdpanzer IV L70 A is a glasscanon and pretty useless, because of its flat armor part
and the event Jagdpanzer IV with the shorter gun is broken, in so far that it has less armor than the regular Jagdpanzer IV however it is still very difficult to get destroyed by T34.
Also I advice you to stick to the regular Tiger tank, it has much better turret armor than the Tiger II right now, for what ever reason.
Use this one is very fun (if you have winned it) is very small,fast, you can do a lot of stealth aganaist enemy forces and can kill all soviet tank, but the best thing is, him is the only tank wo can drive in berlin with 0 problen
Interesting how so many chose the Jagdpanzer IV, it has less armour and worse gun, but seems more popular.
I might try it out and see, if it same gun as Panzer IV, might be a bit weak against IS2s, will give it a go.
One of the reasons I am using the campaign Panzer IV/70 A is the height improves your gunners visibility, especially on that street map in Berlin, yes it increases profile but can also shoot tanks earlier.
Thanks for the feedback, all good helpful stuff 
its basically broken, its 50-60mm of armor are effectively strong enough to stop a 85mm gun, which has 150mm of penetration, which doesnt make any sense.
lets go
I use Jagdpanzer IV / 70
Pros: T34 / SU are drilled from the front very easily even at an angle, IS1 and IS2 you will have a little more difficulty drilling.
You are almost indestructive when facing the enemy against the T34s, as the IS can give you a bit of a headache if you don’t angle after a shot.
For being an extremely low tank, the enemy will hardly see you, so make good use of it
Bad: Vehicles in the scenery will get in the way of your shooting, needing a clean front, infantry is your weak point because the machine gun doesn’t move much, you’ll practically have to stay very far back and only serving to destroy tanks, your low profile will get in the way when shooting on the trams, if you advance it will be entirely depending on the infantry
At the end I would give a 9 against tanks and 4 against infantry
Mobility 8: because it is very fast and has a very good reverse gear, making it easy to make field withdrawals without being seen.
Visibility: 3 You’ll practically have to stick your head out of the hatch a lot
He’s really good in Custom Match mode.
The angled armor is better than Tiger H “IV /70”
