Osasto Törni / Detachment Törni squad

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I am suggesting a Finnish Detachment Törni squad for German tree.
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It could be a assault squad armed with drum mag Suomi KP SJR (Suujarru) i.e.muzzle device

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KP-44, a 9mm mod of PPS-43 manufactured in Finland

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Suomi KP SJR with 50 rnd box mag

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Osasto Törni was a prolific Finnish unit, led by Lauri Törni / Larry Thorne.
Lauri Törni was tasked with forming a volunteer unit from physically fit and skilled soldiers, majority of which came from first divisions 35th and 36th Jaeger Coys and anti partisan/spy unit.

Osastö Törni conducted many operations against the invaders, including the mining of roads, ambushes, hunting of partisans and spies.

The unit had very much a successful track record fighting against the soviets, for example. At seesjärvi, the soviets surrounded the Finnish base situated at southern side of seesjärvi and osasto Törni was called in to fix the situation.
Of the ~300 strong soviet attack force, 82 were killed and 32 captured while Osasto Törni only suffered 8 deaths and 11 wounded. Det Törni also captured 58 submachine guns, 5 flamethrowers, 2 DT machine guns and 115 pares of skis. One of the DT machine guns was assigned to Mauno Koivisto, future Finnish president.

Detachment Törni ended up being quite famous unit both in Finnish side and Soviet side, soviets ended up setting 3 million Finnish marks bounty on Lauri Törni. Detachment Törni also caught the eye of Finnish Marshall Mannerheim due to their success mentioned before.

Mauno Koivisto, future Finnish president who was part of Osasto Törni.
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Detachment Törni preparing for counterattack.
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Larry Thorne as he was known during his US service, ended up joining US Army and with aid of Alpo Marttinen, another Finnish Officer who ended up in US Army, Lauri got into US Special Forces where he taught different skills such as skiing. In the end he earned his way into MACV-SOG and in his second tour in Vietnam he unfortunately died, however not to the enemy but to nature herself.

Larry Thornes remains were recovered in 1999 and formally identified in 2003, same year he was finally buried at Arlington National Cemetery. He was posthumously awarded the rank of Major in 1967 (with action date of 1965, the year he died) and inducted into the USSOCOM Commando Hall of Honor in 2011.

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There’s already a Premium squad in game - Jäger Regiment 227 armed with the Suomi KP / - 31, which closely represents what you’re asking for.

They have very similar uniforms and weapons to those that you outline.

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The kp 31 sjr already exists in the editor

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Peltiheikki? Yes please!

Also i hope they dont mess finnish voicelines like they did in wt

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Different gun variant and different uniforms and also completely different nation.
There are also plenty of other Suomi KP variants that could be given.

But also if u give em the Suomi KP with stick mag and/or KP-44, it could be of lower br than the premium assault squad with suomi kps.

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Well they’re not wearing German uniforms so if the devs mucked up what the Finnish uniform looks like, that’s just on par with their broader attention to detail.
Nevertheless that squad is what you’re effectively asking for.

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Its a German squad with Suomi KP-31s, it really isnt what I am asking for.

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Tier V assaulters with KP 31 sjr in the tech tree… one can only dream of this amazing outcome. We will take back Säkkijärvi in no time.

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i think that they gonna add it as bp gun.

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In May 1941, Lauri Törni and a group of nearly 1,300 Finnish volunteers travel to Germany, where he undergoes military training for service in the SS. Later, the trained Finns form the SS-Freiwilligen Bataillon Nordost. As part of this battalion, Lauri receives the rank of Untersturmführer, which is equivalent to a lieutenant in the Wehrmacht.

I have no other heroes for you.

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Problem? Lauri Törni had no loyalties to Germany, only wanted to fight USSR. Didnt swear an oath to Hitler like other foreign SS volunteers did, and also wanted to fight the Germans in Lapland war.

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After Finland signed an armistice with the USSR, it turned its weapons against Germany under pressure from its new “allies”. Lauri Törni remained true to his principles. At that time, he had no choice but to refuse to take part in the Lapland War and go into the reserves, but “chance” brought him together with a pro-German resistance movement, whose members actively collaborated with the Abwehr and prepared a number of sabotage operations in case Soviet troops entered Finnish territory. Thanks to these people, Törni went to Germany on a German submarine in January 1945. There he trained German soldiers in winter warfare, while simultaneously undergoing an “advanced training” course at the SS sabotage school (SS-Jagdverband). After some time, it became clear that the USSR was not planning to invade Finland. Participating in sabotage operations against his own country was against Lauri Törni’s moral principles, so the German command sent him to fight on the Eastern Front. In April, for his services to the Reich, Lauri received an extraordinary rank of SS-Hauptsturmführer

did not take the oath, but received the title? Is that possible?
In his homeland he was convicted as a traitor. As a result, he fled to Latin America, and then to the USA.

It’s funny that he literally betrayed his homeland. He refused to fight the German occupiers in his homeland.

As I said. I have no other heroes for you. SS man, traitor. deserter.

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Judgement that what deemed to be unjust and parsoned, also rank restored in that act and the 1950 “ruling” was deemed to not hold any power by high court judge.
Even the judgement itself was a sham, pressurized by pro soviet loons in Finland like state police and ussr itself.

He didnt betray anyone nor refuse to fight Germans in Lapland war.

The man is 100% a hero.

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did not refuse. But he himself went “into the reserves”. Then he sailed to Germany on a submarine. He died not in his homeland, but in a foreign, unjust war. Although from your words it follows that he could have returned to his homeland in the 50s.

A hero who fled on forged documents like Nazi criminals to Latin America. Okay, so be it.

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Yes he wasnt allowed to fight in Lapland war, ussr cronies didnt allow it. He did return to Finland briefly but went back to USA.

I really dont care how much u wanna call him muH naZi or whatever cope, he is still a great hero of Finnish military and US Military.

Why are you up in arms about him? Mad that someone had the balls to fight against soviet tyranny??

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Im finnish and i agree with you. He is recognozed as an hero here atleast in my experience

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Yep, and as a Finn too. I can say that he is highly regarded in Finnish military, especially professional side.

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against Nazi tyranny? together with the Nazi tyranny.

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He wanted to fight against Germans too in lapland war but was not allowed to by red cronies. Lets not try to paint USSR as some sort of a good organization.
Its a simple fact, he held no allegiance to Germany, never swore SS oath, was willing to fight the Germans, only wanted to fight communists.

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Also lets not forget, after 1944s peace agreement. The red cronies held a lot of sway in Finland for some time, including the sham court against Lauri Törni and its “judgement”, he even got a presidential pardon.
But his military rank was stripped without the power to do so in the 50s which was eventually declared as a void action by a Finnish high court judge, with the statement that his military rank was never rightfully stripped.

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and he also escaped from prison in Finland several times. Or tried to escape. I don’t remember.

What am I getting at? There are no other heroes?