ironically enough most players said jumbo OP because of the frontal armor which will only really come in hand with tank v tank combat since planes and infantry don’t really have a care in the world for armor. so under that logic yes the panther is objectively OP since only 2 tanks can really do anything about panther which is M10 and firefly at least from the front, it also helps that panther really isn’t lack any downsides unlike jumbo. though a more underlying issue is that gray zone camping is often done
NGL if I know I am frontally almost invulnerable the temptation to camp rather than risk my sides is strong.
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no bad, no gray zone camping coward. but seriously panther can be just as dangerous on the front lines and away from the grayzone
Jumbo could easily have been destroyed by 6x250kg Junkers bombs, but the balance is always in the direction of the Germans.
I am glad for the panther, but not for jumbo, only because of the historicity.
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Hell just cooking the det pack and chucking it at the side armor will likely destroy it
While this is mainly true, if a Jumbo player knows what he’s doing (like angling, some of them refuse to do that) a Pz IV would have a really hard time dealing with them as well, making the Panther the only reliable way to destroy a Jumbo frontally. But the Jumbo does have some trouble penning stuff. Though I don’t really consider tank vs tank combat that important because of all the other tools we have to destroy tanks (though I do understand why people do think it’s important). Gray zone though definitely needs to be reworked, maybe like there should be an area centered around the tank where the gray zone doesn’t exist.
But you also get the Ju way later than the FIRST P-38 and I’d argue that dropping bombs accurately is way harder than to just point nose at target and shoot rockets, though that’s not why I said it. What I was trying to say was that even though people seem to have the mindset that only tanks can deal with other tanks, there are actually MANY ways that are much more efficient but people refuse to acknowledge them. I only see very few people even try to use planes against tanks and considering how a lot of people completely ignore det packs I firmly believe tanks are only a problem because people are actively trying to make them a problem so they can complain.
M1 Garand is just better than the Gewehr (and the gewehr is not bad either) imo, Jumbo used to be the best gray zone camper before the Panther arrived, P-47s are great at providing CAS and they can hunt down enemy bombers that have absolutely no way to protect themselves, Tunisia… Sure in Normandy the most commonly used equipment does seem to favor the Germans a bit currently, but I’d say it’s not always the case. Plus I’m sure we’re going to see more stuff added later on and there might be a time the allies get objectively better/more interesting equipment or people might find the campaigns more balanced in the future (really doubt it, people need to blame something for their losses).
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well… that aint really truee.
regular shermans can go through. even t34 85 from distance.
( if you aim below the transmission, or somewhere near the driver port )
i tested this yesterday in custom matches with my bf.
the vehicle it self can looks scary, but it’s not so tought like it seems.
plus, you can take out the gun or it’s tracks.
mh, i’d say panthers are more dangerous.
with one shot, you don’t always kill half of the crew. only 2 or 1.
whether with the japz it’s just an issue when you face it in custom games. where moscow vehicles are pretty much useless again any other campaign tanks ( outside pumas, m5s and others moscow vehicles )
but the rest, can pretty much pen it.
problem is… if i have to be honest, for how ““good”” this vehicle can be, it’s not really better than a panther.
but that’s just my personal opinion of course :=
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Germany BF 110 too have rockets…
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They do. 4 big low-velocity HE rockets in the middle of the wings making them harder to aim. P-38 has 6 smaller rockets mounted right next to the cockpit and they are much higher velocity. Overall Bf has a way harder time hitting the target well, and they have less chances to hit as well (though it should be a bit more forgiving because of the size). Does that mean a Bf can kill ground targets? Absolutely. However most people are currently upset about the Panther, and as such the P-38 is much more valuable when it comes to tank hunting than the Bf.
Its good.
Germany has big bomber,american good rockets.
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The opposite. Rockets have random sway, ballistic drop and they need to connect with the roof of a tank, because their tiniest splash can’t even damage tracks. While you can just poop a bomb in a general direction of a tank under your nose, and it’s a toast.
I’m glad you are an ace bomber mate, but I’ve seen many MANY people miss with their bombs. Even I’ve done that a few times. Also with how sometimes bombs bounce off of a tank and land not anywhere close enough they really aren’t so easy to use.
Not at all, just tend to fly a lot and roleplay air support/bomber hunter when I’m in squad with my friends.
Doesn’t matter for 250 kilos/500 pounds of joy and happiness.