One BAR for BR II and one Bren for BR III for my OCD

My BR 2 Marines yearn for the BAR

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I agree that the M1918 can go down a BR, I can (and do) bring Brens into higher BRs but I don’t want to be forced to, because then I can’t also move down as I want to.

In fact, anyone can use them in higher BRs if they want to, I don’t want them to have a buff I love them as they are. :cry:

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Doesn’t really change anything about the fact they’re basically identical stat wise. So I don’t think it would be problematic to change stats of one of them to make it play slightly different.

But on other hand, I definitely don’t want to ruin someone’s favorite weapon.

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If the Devs really didn’t want to ruin one of the bren variants for someone then I suppose they could add the bren MK3 that is lighter so it would fit a different play style better.

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Bren Mk I and II for BR 2, just there for anyone to use anywhere based on personal prefference (historical desire included), Mk III for elite airborne units with slightly tweaked stats and pumped up to BR 3? I could agree to this compromise.

Though the Lewis would be a natural fit in the BR 3 tech tree as well, and I would preffer having the Mk III as another choice of Bren, as it would fit into yet another category, that being airborne troops… something I’d put in future paratrooper boxes in every BR when they become customizable (I hope, one day)…

I can agree to compromises, just know what I will be seething in the background… I just want as much freedom as possible when making my squads…

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The more the merrier I say, if the USA can have 3 bars in br3 currently the the UK can have 2 of their own lmgs in br3

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I like thinking about low BR weapons like bolt action rifles you know, that they never truly become redundant, a BR 1 rifle will still kill in BR 3, so I like my tech trees bottom heavy, it gives you more freedom into where you bring things.

Like, I don’t see the US having only one BR 4 MG for example, I see it as having four because the BARs are still valid. Now maybe people will complain that the gear isn’t up to the same level as other countries and so on, but for those people there can be a clear progression (ie, Lewis in this case), but for those who don’t mind we can choose to bring whatever we deem to be appropriate, and I like my Brens.

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This is why I am more okay with bringing things down than bringing them up.

But again, if needed the Mk III would be a compromise I’d accept.

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I do not.

Recent BR2 smg powercreep totally destroyed the original vibe BR2 had.

Not to mention low BRs are way more bloated with content. Many of it totally outdated thanks to the powercreep I have already mentioned.

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Ok, so before I add my 2 cents worth,
let me point out which faction I play
the most with so people can see I am
not just schilling for the Allies. :wink:
win loss

First of all, the BAR was used in World War one, and in the “ENTIRETY” of World war 2 in every theatre, so there is no reason to exclude it from level two. Level one yes, since there are no MG’s in level one :blush:. However, the Allies should have one in level two. I play mostly Germans level two, so arming the Allies with BAR’s effects me as much as anyone here who plays mostly German faction, but it is NOT going to be a game changer. When I do play Allies level two, I only use four machine gunners anyway, so that is only four BAR’s and not going to change the balance of power. I imagine most others do the same as level two seems to be more SMG heavy. Yes, I could use my three TT MG squads I guess at level two, however they are better used in level three with the superior BAR A2.

For me, right now the Soviet BP RPK 1943 is the best level two MG, however handicapped with a 15 round magazine. I also personally like the BP Japanese Hotchkiss, and I like them both over the MG13. I can’t remember the Hotchkiss ROF, but I think it’s probably around the RPK, and to be honest, slowing the BAR should theoretically lower it’s vertical recoil.

I would add the base BAR 1918, and even though I don’t feel it needs a de-buffing for level two, I would not be opposed to dropping its max ROF to 500 or 550. The RPK does well and its max rate is 500. BTW, I would also give the RPK a 20 round magazine to match the BAR. Along with that, I would also rework the MG 13 giving it less horizontal recoil as IMOP that’s it’s biggest weakness as it loves to sway side to side, however I do pretty well with it as it is, but that should please the German playing faction. IMOP this would make level two better, however the Dev’s are the ones who have to make the changes, and I have said on multiple occasions that 99.9% of our suggestions are DOA the moment they are submitted, so I am not holding my breath.

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