I am not tired so I will ask it again, americans and germans have it already, japs and soviets still don’t have a single one, I have one post speaking about jap possible APCs, however, I am not good BUT I think the T-20 Komsolet, or maybe we could add another truck kun or an american based one, or the post war one because they have already a post war weapon
Komsolets
Ho-Ki
Soviets could just get the universal carrier too, I might be wrong, but I swear I remeber seeing one in the editor
Edit: I was wrong, there is not a soviet UC in the editor
Komsolets it’s their own version, in my opinion but yes could be one of the multiple variants who existed
The Soviets used a shit ton of UC’s. Personally though Id like to see them get one of their conversions of the M3 Lee into an APC, could be nice if the Allies also got their Kangaroo’s.
if you have documents and info I would be grateful about the M3 Lee conversion, because I only know about the Ram Kangaroo who where for Canadians and the flamethrower version called as Ram Badger who as far I know wasn’t an APC
it would be on my opinion a lazy move but oh well what we can expect now
Fuck no, the Soviets have a ton of their own stuff that could be added instead of a lazy copy and paste
Lazy but smart. The Soviets didn’t have many APCs during WWII, so I prefer to fill the events and premiums with Lend Lease equipment so that maybe we can add national models to TT later.
Stick to historical like Univ carrier (br2) or Su-57 (br3)
Or go domestic T34 APC (Br4)
All 4 man APCs, all would be dope honestly
I’ve seen that tank before, I’d rather keep it for later, it could be added at the same time as the Kangaroos.
And the SU 57 looks very interesting, it could be something suitable to compete with the German event APC, I don’t know which one to choose between the Universal Carrier and the SU 57. both look great!
and that’s why I would rather prefeer the komsolets
Well for the Kangeroo’s, there are shit tons, from Stuarts, Rams, Priests and even Churchills and hell even shermans. Generally the idea comes from a lack of APCs, (Mostly M3 Halftracks as the UC wasnt suited by this point to be an assault transport.), but an excess of tanks, hence relatively easy conversions by ditching the turret. As far as Im aware, the only model that wasnt well received was the Stuart due to very thin armour and those converted ended up as artillery tractors.
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As for the Soviet Conversion of the M3 Lee, from what I understand, it was a limited run of the earlier models of the M3 Lee before the US sent them later versions which didnt have side hatches anymore. However documentation of them is a bit dodgy of specifics, 17 men carried is the normal figure stated for its capacity, however its not stated if this includes tank riders as well as those inside. Otherwise its also mixed info if the its the Turret which was removed, or the casemate 75, or both even to make space for more people inside. I have read however that 10 men armed with SMGs could be fit inside plus the fighting crew, though phrasing isnt perfect. This could be where the 17 men figure came from, since as we see with later cold war doctrine with the likes of BTR’s and etc, the crew is counted as a part of the squad its carrying.
As for official documentation, good luck, I suspect a lot of it came from in the field modification, however its a thing I read about in multiple accounts so Im inclined to believe it. Saying that, it could also be a misunderstanding spread over the years, see above the mention of 10 men with SMGs being able to fit inside, that comes from the official testing of the M3 Lee by the soviets, hence its not impossible that was taken out of context and spread all over. Its also a real issue to distinguish between when the men were riding on top of the tank vs when they were inside of the tank, though there is certainly accounts specifying inside the tank, making note of only the earlier models with the side doors could be used effectively as APC’s.
TLDR, Its highly likely, however finding proof beyond anecdotal first or second hand accounts is near impossible, the closest Ive found is the official soviet testing reports for the M3 Lee when it first arrived. As we should all know by now, finding photo proof of soviet equipment is a nightmare unless you have unrestricted access to the Kremlins archives.
interesting!
Re M3 Lee, if it was tested once these days its a valid entry into Enlisted - It would also likely be reasonably strong APC since were talking about a 6 man crew, not a typical 4 man assault APC like German 251/9 or Bren carrier.
Biggest issue is that its already in Allied and Soviet lineups.
Outside of copy paste AT weapons there seems to be very allergic response to giving copy paste vehicles to respective nations - here Soviets would require a second M3 Lee in assault APC function.
Id personally love it, just think devs are allergic to the idea. See everything up to T-34 APC as more likely
Thats why I was thinking of going with a version with no 75mm gun, that way you have the benefit of a fully encased APC, but lose the ability to use meaningful HE. Place it at BR3 or BR4 even maybe since it was used all the way to 1945.
Su-57 > Universal Carrier
It would be extraordinarily lazy to copy and paste an event vehicle to use for a different event.
I mean one has a DhSK on top and the other had a boys mounted in the hull, that alone qualifies a difference. Its also a fact that the soviets both were given and used a shit ton of UC’s.
Well, this is even more personalized and the boys ATR have been replaced.
Apparently a DP!
Definitely needed I prefer Universal carrier
