Okay hear me out: Panzer III N should get a better HEAT ( type C 115mm~ pen) - but move to BR3

Im sure you meant that as sarcasim but you tell me? what problem? what is stopping you from sending it back to the respawn screen in #insert any AT option here?

How many more tanks do I have to destroy? Iā€™m just tired. Every battle turns into a hunt for Pz3N. Every one.
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yes yes, Iā€™m a typical USSR player. Problems with skill, all that.

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Toxic Soviet main talks about imaginary ā€œtoxicā€ German vehicles. Oh the irony. They only truly toxic vehicle are overpowered and overbuffed KV-1, PZ3N was never a problem for the Soviets due APHE shells only American tanks struggle hard (they should receive APHE rounds)

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Why would it be better vs infantry? All the HE-type rounds actual HE content of the 2 guns is the same

every BR 3 game is shermans, Panzer IVJ and KV 1ā€¦

whats the difference :man_shrugging:

This post illustrates how a game without economics is fundamentally screwed - the Pz-IIIN was a cheap tank made from obsolete parts, but in Enlisted it has exactly the same value as any otehr tank - which is 1 slot.

Now fiddling around with artificially nerfing or buffing things to try to get some value out of it in a time period that it existed rather than the silly time period it gets to play in.

Sums up Enlistedā€™s BR problem nicely.

the problem is that no tank causes as many problems as this one. No one. Why do I easily ignore USSR and US tanks when playing for the Axis?
Look how many tanks I destroyed playing for the Axis and how many playing for the USSR. And the Axis also plays against the USA. In other words, I can say that playing for the USSR you have to destroy 4 times more tanks than playing for Germany. A paradox, donā€™t you think?

Toxic Axis main talks

In the gun reload time of 3.3 seconds. Right?

Cant say anything with that data. That doesnt mean there were more tanks. All it realy means is thats what you spent your time doing.

I have waaaaaaay more kills with USSR planes than Allied planesā€¦and thats only because I choose to fly them more than the P-47

M8 Scott has 3.3 second reload :man_shrugging:ā€¦same fire power

yeah, why did I do that? Just like that, for no apparent reason? Or maybe because otherwise this infantry annihilator would kill my entire team and we would lose? No, thatā€™s some kind of nonsense.

and yet you arent getting obliterated by M8 scottā€¦nope doesnt add up

By the way, the last time I checked, its high explosive shells werenā€™t working.

all of them areā€¦what difference does lack of top armor make to a tank cannon, AT cannon, bomb, bazooka, tnt or det pack. NOTHING. The only difference it makes is being straffed, or someone standing on top of your tank, at which point you are going to be TNTd anyway.

Well, yes, I can just shoot the crew. Destroy it with artillery. I have no problems with it. And this is obvious. It does not interfere with me playing for Germany. I showed my game statistics, I told you myself that I have a problem only with the Pz3N. But you donā€™t believe me? Or whatā€™s wrong? Is it a matter of principle? As you say. Soon there will be no more of your stupid principles in this game.

no such thing exists, only inside your head

I agree, next to this.

Toxic Soviet main

you showed me one stat (and cut the rest), that doesnt mean anything in particular. (Also it isnt BR specific I might add).

This is everything wrong with the way you try to ā€œproveā€ things. You select ā€œoneā€ thing (that is neither here nor there) to try and fit the narritive as best you can.

  • OMG Ive killed more tanks on this faction so this factions tanks must be OP ??? (seroiusly wtf)
  • OMG it has a 3.3 second reload (forgetting there are others with the same fire power)
  • OMG it has HEAT (forgetting to mention there is only 7 rounds and other Nations have HEAT)
  • OMG its all I see at BR 2ā€¦forgetting that you pretty much only see One tank type at most BRs

yeah nahā€¦you either have an agender, or are full of it.

BR 2 tanks are in a good spot.

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meanwhile.

  1. if it provides advantage, it is unfair, so remove it
  2. if it doesnt provide advantage, then removing it shouldnt be a problem

right?
especially since there are these things. They are a good replacement.

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Of course not as fast, less armor. Thatā€™s not a problem, is it?

Read again
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Nope I said it well before you
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ā€¦for starters, 50mm effective armor is a pretty standard thickness at this BR and isnā€™t enough to stop any of the AT weapons (maybe AT rifles) or methods for killing tanks.

Clearly you arenā€™t familiar with the t-28e, spend some time in the armor viewer

Oh I see what you did there, (or what you were trying to do) but nooā€¦you missed the mark. You know why you donā€™t see Panzer IVs 75mm short? Its not armor (because that doesnt help your main weakspot), Its because 75m APCBC short is a terrible anti tank round. Give this thing heat, and move the Panzer IIIN up to BR 3 and you will just be back here next week crying the bad panzer IV touched you and its all you see

Typical ā€œcant form a good argumentā€ response.

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