If the ground would behave like in Stalingrad Shovels would be used more often.
Sorry but in my books one or two people using something doesnāt make this something usefull.
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to be quite frankly with you,
stalingrad is probably the only campaign where shovels do not get used in 80% unlikes other maps.
too much solid concrete.
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Its about the ground where it can be used of course.
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which itās your book.
not the dev ones.
and thatās what most people love of enlisted. having choices and options for people that does want.
itās not up to you to judge what they should or should not use ( of course, if they used overpowered weapons or other things that arenāt okey, than dicussions and debates can be opened ) but not for those type of things.
Isnt Normandy only full of German tryhards?
So what now?
I would love to see those fancy trenches in the second, third and fourth section of D-Day.
Cause trying to get past defenders obi-waning on the hills by digging at the beach sounds logical I guess.
How the vehicles will go from hills ? They groft roads to stop them not infantry
Sheesh.
Do we really need to debate this dead horse again?
Cant we just skip and agree (again) that APCs and maybe shovels are useful in the future and rn let the three plebs have fun with it?
I saw this once and that wasnt even my session but a screenshot. And if I dont see them out of 400+ Spamandy matches where people excessive spam meta shit, then itās debatable if the āmarketā sees them as effective.
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I wouldnāt bring devs as an example of doing sensible things.
More like ilusion of choises. You can do a lot of things, yes.
But many of them are simply not worth your time and effort or arenāt rewarded/encouraged by the game.
To be precise, anything that isnāt scoring kills or isnāt a rally is not encouraged.
Iām just stating my opinion. I may be wrong of course and I was many times.
But in this case Iām pretty sure of my estimates.
Time will tell as there is no doubt APCs will make it into the game.
I hope to be wrong, I really do as I also love APCs. But I donāt think I will.
Custom games may and probably will make good use of them. But not the base game.
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you are always welcome to change your mind of course.
and we wonāt have to discuss over and over :+1
i would say yes, but first i still need to own or have them apc to be able to use themā¦
donāt you think?
and how exactely are you being that different? or how i am.
i think as long you are having fun, thatās what matters.
to you.
guess weāll see.
we can still ( maybe and hopefully ) be able to change them when those will be introduced later on i guess.
which, in my humblest opinion, i kinda wished to be coming as I wanted ( as it would have increased them in their uses rather than just being a transport brick 2.0 ) but given not much the support, weāll get exactly what yāall wanted cus no one said anything about them or didnāt talked enough about it.
For example I know that giving overheat to AA wouldnāt nerf their anti-infantry performance.
But I guess devs know better.
I could quote any of your posts about customization.
Iām not saying making a game&buisness is easy. But lack of some common sense is evident.
Problem is that you either have fun or you play effectivelly. At least in my case.
The game gives the most points for kills, rallies and wins (in general) ā it encourages those actions.
Iām affraid that I donāt have your faith. I lost it +/- 6 months ago.
We hardly ever get what we want.
+1
Not sure what you mean.
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fair point.
butā¦ thatās still up to you.
you can do it, just as much as you can avoid doing just that.
iām just good at hiding it
Yes for many things, no for others.
people delay the inevitable, pointing fingers and only say what apc wouldnāt be able to do instead of make it better or suggest improvements.
they are more of the idea " ahhh if i donāt touchy it, itās useless. and everyone who says otherwise is wrong " type of arguments.
( which you previously were part of )
Can =/= is encouraged
Iām jealous.
I simply donāt give a fuck enough to write another essay āhow to make XYZ betterā for it only to be ignored.
(I donāt even know if this sentence is written in english or only looks like one.)
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doesnāt have to.
as someone who regularly plays custom matches alone ( started more frequently from the past 5 to 4 months ) in order to avoid stomping newer players with my latter shiny toys, or not in the mood for playing againstā¦ " rats " aināt gonna stop me from doing it.
it all depends for you.
sure, itās gonna take me 170 matches out of probably 30 just to unlock a new level, but if i really want new level, i can just simply wait for a bost, and play when boosters are on.
it takes just good spirit, and controll. ( must admit thoughā¦ as iām about to release a rant ( for experiment ) on cosmetics, it has itās limits 
)
well, i agree and can relate alot about the feeling, but if you donāt try, you lost from the beginning your chance.
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Recently Iām more in a āgive up modeā.
But I see your points.
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You could have said that during the early days
Sadly not now.
Due to the insane full auto and explosive spam meta it forces people to play how they dont want, because if they play LIKE they want they will loose every game at the bottom of the scoreboard
Same for halftracks
I want them, ill use them but they wont be useful one bit.
Until the Full auto, explosion spam, suicide bombing, arty/bomber spam is fixed - the game wont be able to move on and add new and interesting stuff because it will be pointless.
Whats the point of a 251 in Berlin if as soon as you spawn it every AI and player that of course has Federovs and AVT/AVS will spray down everyone in, by it and it will be explosion packed instantly because everyone has them.
You need to fix the core of the game.
If during the early OBT days they added halftracks, they would have been amazing, now theyll just be a magnet, and will cause frustrations.
Again fix the core, only then can the game move on and get better
Ill see how you defy āfunā when youll be nuked by a holy explosion pack immediately, or destroyed by arty, or bombers or grayzoning tanks, or just your regular tryhards