OG 43 needs its to be given its standard issue magazine

Being a BR 2 weapon it would stand to reason that it should be in line with the other submachine guns of its kind, namely the niche of highly controllable, low rate of fire sub guns that dominate Geramny’s BR 2 selection. Especially it’s performance is in line with the MP 38, Beretta M1 and M38/42, all of which are pretty much interchangeable save for the magazine capacity of which the OG 43 has the lowest at 20 rounds.

But being an Italian sub gun, like all others of the era, it was made to use the standard set of Beretta M38 magazines which included 10, 20, 30 and 40 capacity, with the latter being the magazine of choice if not the standard issue magazine used by the troops with lower capacity magazines, namely the 10 round capacity magazines being relegated to police/guard duties - like every other nation with their submachine guns.
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In fact the 40 round magazines were so predominant that the Italians issued pouches and even vests designed specifically for these 40 magazines, with these “samurai” vests being primarily issued to their paratroopers and other special forces.
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So it boggles the mind why the OG 43 with issued with a magazine with such low capacity that any serious army would relegate to guards and police units given that such low capacity which is entirely unfit for the front lines, much less with the level of combat present at BR 2 and BR 3 (which it will inevitably face); and it is especially illogical as by all intents and purposes it should have the same magazine as the Beretta M1 and M38/42 because it was and intended designed to use their exact same magazine.
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Sounds good to me.

with all the Additions and SMGS shifted to BR 2, The OG-43 is looking more and more like a BR 1 gun (Its still very good, I like it)…So a bigger magazine for BR 2 would be most welcome

It would also make them more interesting at higher BR

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One of my biggest issues with DF when it comes to guns is that DF does what they want with the weapon, not necessarily what was accurate for the weapon. DF should have done the simple thing and made it a policy that all their weapons would be offered in the most common, most used configuration of the war, this way people wouldn’t be on the forum daily complaining about Enlisted weapons and constantly asking to buff this or de buff that.

DF needs to just have someone go research every weapon in the game, check those statistics vs the game gun statistics and change them as needed. Then offer up an update with a statement saying all guns are reworked to the most common numbers we could find, no more buffing will be done on existing game weapons. That would be crystal clear.

BTW, when it comes to the OG 43 to me if feels like a level one smg. DF should have offered the squad with the OG 43, but made it and all other premium squads with interchangeable weapons, so I could swap that OG 43 with any level smg I choose and use it in any level I choose.

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DF’s fast and lose approach to the way they implemented the guns in this game really bothers me because it is always either the gun overperforms or underperforms, its always something that makes the gun an absolute fantasy weapon, with even the small stuff being out of whack. It’s especially weird because it feels like anyone who ends up bringing this stuff up does a better job at researching gun specs than however many guys they got looking for the stuff they pull out for events and battle pass guns.

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Unlike M38, 90% of the picture about OG-43 use 20 round mag
It’s reasonable as paratrooper weapon with it’s Iconic short mags

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Either that or just lower the squad to BR1.

And then they could release OG 43 with bigger mag separately or with some other squad.

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Because it was a prototype gun that was never issued to troops, and guns which use a standard issue mag don’t tend to use the full capacity mag because it is not necessary for the testing stages. Even assuming 20 rounds is the intended capacity, it doesnt discount the fact that the 40 round mags were the most predominant version available to troops who would see combat, of which paratroops out of all units need as much firepower as they can afford to take with them because of their unique vulnerability. Why do you think things like the FG 42 were developed for? The only other paratrooper squad with a gun of that low a capacity is the Beretta M38 squad that is for BR 1, and that gun is still a far superior weapon by shear virtue of its higher rate of fire and the nicety that is its bayonet. Hell all of these photos are either archival (oldest being of its testing stages) or 3D models who just copy each other because what would you expect from such an obscure gun who’s most predominant appearance was its inclusion to COD Vanguard.

I think its fine as is, but it should go down to BR 1 and the paratrooper crate should get a new preset for BR 1 as to not get flamethrowers there.

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not like the flamethrowers would be any better than the german paras and their mg34s at br1

This is no excuse, the same would go for all of the paratrooper squads. They need to add BR 1 and BR 2 presets for them, especially now after the latest matchmaking changes.

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The bad thing is that Germany already has a level one paratrooper squad, so, the best thing would be for DF to simply change the squads to changeable weapons so they can be rearmed and used in any level. This should be done with all premium squads. DF didn’t have a problem doing this with the Soviets, yet, can’t seem to find the will to give this ability to any other faction.

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Correct, the FNAB 43 I have been on the forum urging DF to correct the mistake they made by setting it at 400 rate of fire, when a quick search says it should be between 600-837, with only one report I saw of a model that shot 400. If DF did another quick search they would see that the most common ROF for the Soviet PPS-43 was 500-600 ROF with an “Experimental” ROF of 804. So, on one hand, DF in their infinite wisdom used the very bottom number they could find for the FNAB vastly under performing it, and on the other hand used the highest number for the PPS and vastly over performed it. Doesn’t make sense to me, and doesn’t seem like an accident to me either.

Call me a conspiracy theorist. :rofl: So, why would we expect the OG 43 to be accurate either? I don’t know the real life specs of the gun, but if given a choice, I wouldn’t be surprised if DF used underperforming numbers to program it. It appears they could have given it a more likely mag size, but they I guess have their reasons.

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Just because you can for some reason pull out an MG-34 at br1 if you pay does not mean moving more BR3 German stuff to fight new players is fine lol.
The MG is the problem to begin with, they at most shoud have been getting ZBs like the event squad.

i dont know what the fuss is about para flamers…I do ALOT more damage with para machine guns than flamers…especially if it was the ZB

its not about para flamers… its about a BR1 premium squads getting BR3 MGs, which is essentially paying to bypass gaijin’s +1 matchmaking rule for BR1

edit: and the last time I checked my flamer paras got ZBs… so what is your point?

only that if it were move to BR 1 with BR 2 machine guns (since there are no BR 1 MGs), MGs would still do far more damage than flamers

I am not talking about that, I said that BR1 premium paras should not have BR3 MGs

This is way too late for a change like this to happen, you could ask to lower it’s BR however

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