Normandy invasion is no longer playable

Imagine thinking AA actually does jackshit or that it’s pathetic 10 round magazine is anything but peanuts against a “slow to turn” bomber. :roll_eyes:

AA turns slower than a tortoise and it’s rounds are anemic against bigger planes. You can literally dump an entire AA mag into an oncoming bomber and it will still drop it’s bombs, and keep flying 99% of the time. That bomber will have also flown past you and by the time you turn to try and fire again, it will be long gone and out of range.

AA is a fucking joke.

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Planes are bullet sponges? I’ll try to remember that the next time I get 1 shotted out of the air.(happens 4-5 times a day). You just suck at using them some players make my life hell in the air. Fighters get 300 Xp for every plane they shoot down. If the enemy is spamming planes then a good fighter has an XP farm.
As for when I’m on the ground, I usually take the best sniper award too.
Try this, cry less, play more, improve…

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Oh fuck off. I have bucketloads of screenshots to prove I’m not shit at this game. You think AA is fine? OK. Well then I also get into my BF109 and despite being directly behind a bomber unloading all of my ammunition, including 20mm cannon rounds, the damn things don’t ever seem to die.

Plenty of people say planes have problems. You are in the minority here. Planes are broken and they need balancing. Do I want them to be deleted from the game? No, of course not. But I do think they need a balance pass. Because right now? The only people having fun in planes are likely people who main planes. Tanks have counters. Infantry can be dealt with. A plane on the other hand, requires the anemic AA gun to potentially do something, or jumping into a fighter which isn’t a guarantee. If AA was better than it’s current state, I absolutely wouldn’t have a problem with planes.

I main engineer, average 150 kills a game and get 3 awards on a bad day. Keep playing the stat game, because I guarantee I’m far better than you.

Besides all of that, for a lot of people planes just aren’t fun. Even if they are effective in a plane, that doesn’t mean they like using them. They have to stop playing infantry for who knows how long, just to get into a plane they hate flying to deal with bombers (not to mention plane cyclers). That’s not fun. That’s not conducive to fun gameplay. If they aren’t in a plane then they are using AA, and when compounded with the fact AA feels sluggish to use, that which means it can take a lot of time to shoot down a plane. Time that isn’t spent playing the role they like. Yes, you can take down a plane in a single hit, but that depends very much on where you hit them. Given that AA only has 10 rounds a magazine, it can be luck of a draw.

You may like planes, and that’s fine. Planes shouldn’t be nerfed into the ground. But other people don’t have to like planes, and that’s perfectly acceptable.

Edited to be less of an asshole lol.

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Try flying one. 90% of the guys I see crash on the first run. The guys you are complaining about are the guys like me that spent 2 hours fixing the flight controls just to make them usable, then spent hours learning hour to control these flying bricks just to be able to hit something. Then after all that I get to hear people cry about needing to nerf them.
When I see an enemy bomber I get in my fighter, they last about 60 seconds.
For anyone who thinks bomer life is easy, try it.

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Flying a plane isn’t mind bogglingly difficult lol. Just use the WASD keys in conjunction with the mouse, flaps, and don’t burn out the engine on WEP. Sim players from Warthunder shouldn’t have a problem flying. Anyway, how do you think the people on the ground feel? Because while this game is combined arms, infantry are the backbone in a game. They get bombed and feel like they can’t do anything about your bomber in the sky. But I’ve already made my point in my previous post so I won’t reiterate myself.

Besides, you may be fine in a bomber. But plane cycling is an actual issue. A player buys more vehicle slots, takes 3 planes, and can practically cycle planes for the entire game and never touch foot on the ground.

Oh, and I forgot that F2P players are practically fucked because they only have 1 vehicle slot. Which means they take a tank or a plane and not both. So if they picked a tank because “tanks are fun!” then they can’t do jack shit against a bomber.

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I have tried it and it is easy … I can easily get more kills in a bomber all day long …

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Have to agree with this. The problem is players are just ignoring being killed by bombers. As I soon as l see kill feed by any bomber I take my fighter up and down it instantly.

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one will die, other will spawn right after. and nothing we can do to prevent the first bomb raid.

and the objective, its still on the ground.

i find planes cancer. i do play with them from times to times, i still get more kills on a tank per minute tho, but atleast, others have a fair chance to kill me.

planes are a boring way to get kills- i dont mind dying to one, on such arcade game, all i have to do is spawn again …

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Let me get this right, you average 150 kills a game, and want LESS of a challenge??? You get how that sounds right? I see pilots who leave a game with 30 kills… Those are who your crying about? Maybe you would prefer we all line up and let you shoot us without returning fire.
Average 150 kills a game?
Perhaps they need to nerf the main you use lol. But it will never be me asking for that cause I dont whine.

I main infantry. SMGs, bolt actions, semi-autos, it doesn’t matter.

And I can do fine. What get’s infuriating is seeing an entire cap, with people in buildings killed by a 250kg or 500lb bomb and then the cap being taken in literally 10 seconds from a large amount troops that were all in the cap and unscathed by the bombs. Have you ever lost a game in 10 minutes before? Because it can happen, and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

Do you think stuff like that is ok? Because infantry need to be in the cap. They either need to defend, or they need to push into caps to take them. It isn’t an option.

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A thinking man. Semper Fi

Planes on PC must be much easier. I’m on console.
I play axis 90% of my game are losses due to 80% of the team is bots who stand there and let allied forces get 150 kills EVERY game… On a bad day…
And still no crying from me that players should ba forced to play as both sides to even out the teams.
Gimme a break for real…
Sorry my bomber is making your 150/1 K/D onto 150/5… Boohoo

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I main Axis, but whatever. Clearly there isn’t any changing your opinion so I’m just going to agree to disagree. Especially since you seem to just tweak out over what I said about my KD, despite you being the one to bring up that I “sucked” into the conversation, while seeming to ignore any argument besides “WHAAA, WHAAAA! YOUR CRYING!” - Your very articulate, clearly. I bite my thumb at thee, and bid you good day sir.

I do not bite my thumb at thee, but I do bite my thumb…
By the way if you main Axis I hope we end up teamed up on a game, you wont see an enemy bomber longer then 1 pass, promise.

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Maybe you two need to get a room somewhere and practice biting thumbs or whatever …

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but non premium players cant compete with 3 infantry slots no way to build an aa gun without engineer squad since i take sniper, machine gun, assaulter those 3 are mandatory if you dont take those 3 squads ur pretty screwed and i refuse to pay money for premium just to get a overpowered advantage over every one that didnt pay

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console is easier as u have aim assist

Ah. How? The other day it took me 6 shots to kill the M8 from Pz IV H on close distance because my grenades went everwhere just not the target. Luckily their turret traverse is so god awful.

Yes and? If you click really fast, the M1 Carabine is basically an LMG too.

As if Allies are any better lmao.

Same do Allies, sometimes even closer to objective than Axis. Also Allies spawn faster.

Your Gamma / Eyes problem.

Killing with M8 any tank on the field, its a beast.

Have that one, I like it actually a lot for its excellent accuracy. Also its pretty fast too…

Proof of the superior German Science over the jewish capitalism of the US. xD

Still Americans get the PITA that kills a Pz IV H frontally with one shot (I did so randomly on about 70m), while germans get the Sturmpistole which wasnt even in service anymore in 1944.

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Average 10 “players” a team, say 5 per squad, 50 total. Most I killed with a bomb was 38. Still 12 alive, team (germans) still wasnt able to cap the first point on Le Bre.

Besides, Allies win nearly 95% of the games if they would at least use 1 rally point to flank the enemy. Instead of doing human wave frontal attacks.

How dare you expect Allies players to think!? Scandalous!

475 if its by headshot.

Take out the P38 G, and literally killing: 1x Bf109, 2x Ju-188, 1x Bf110 before getting resupply. Thing is OP as fuck, the 12,7mm just fly through german planes like its made out of tinfoil.

Hopefully there wont be so much crybaby people from that shit game coming here and more new blood. Because Warthunder is basically dead fish, to much content, and still to small playerbase for the 10mins realism fight and waiting 15mins for a game like some masochist.

Maybe they cry about me? I did 377, 297, 409, 187, 198 yesterday alone.

You on EU or NA server and can stfu and dont annoy me with actual voice talk? Because I will not tune down explosion sounds to hear your lovely voice. Maybe we can rape the allies together some time :smiley:

I could swear there is aim assist also on PC, in close combat when firing the M1 Carabine and G43.

I dunno if it’s as sophisticated as aim assist, but if I see a whole squad just pop out from around a corner right in front of me, I just start spazzing out firing wildly into the mass with the G43. I somehow manage to hit them all… I’m guessing that’s not what you mean by aim assist though. But it seems to get the job done.