Normandy: How Axis tank kill Allies tank?

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I’ve just unlocked my Pz 4 H today, duelled with a lot of Allie’s tank.
The win rate is very low. Even lose to a M5.
When I face a M5, it broke my turret in a very very short time,
then he came close and finish me off.
When I face a Sherman, is almost the same, but is way harder to kill since they deflect my shell.
In my opinion, I feel like Axis’s tank is quite weak while in tank duel.
Sherman and Jumbo can’t be killed from the front.

When I unlocked Pz4 J, I didn’t use it, because the turret is extremely slow.
When I unlocked Pz4 H, I am a bit disappointed, it doesn’t feel as strong as Jumbo/Sherman.
Pz3n might be the strongest tank?
Tbh, through all this hard grind, the reward makes me disappointed.
While I got Sherman and Jumbo, I felt so so great, they are really strong!
And I never regret or feel unhappy in the US grind.

Sorry for my shit-talking, but hope you got the idea.

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could because of broken DMs but german tanks do get APHE while shermans and jumbos don’t but here is some advice i learnt while playing 3n

Stuart: aim for the turret, preferably around the ring, to knock out the crew since it has 3/4 located there
Scott: turret shot should work since 1/2 are there since the commanders would have been easily shot at by bots or someone else
Sherman: try aim for sides especially under the turret near the base of the tank since that is where ammo is kept
Jumbo: same as sherman and you should be able to defeat it frontally with the PZ4s if you go for hull MG

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just main allies

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Tank damage model is borked for all sides - I’ve put 10-12 AP rounds into a Puma from a Sherman 75 and done zero damage once or twice. Other times insta-kill with 1 x HE round!

Also 0 damage with 75mm AP point blank into the side of Pz 3’s is common.

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With your cannon

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100% of the time, If i have HE loaded in Sherman/Jumbo and I can see even 1 millimeter of its side that will show me a green penetration marker, he is dead every time in one shot.

Pumas are xp pinatas for Sherman’s/Jumbos

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Well, unfortunately for everyone about this comedian, you can’t just " shoot ".
speaking seriously for the main topic:

With a Pz IV h you still need to aim to others tanks due to the bad damaging model.

The m5 CANNOT be penetrated from the tureet unless its from the right side or behind the turett ( due to eating shells with no damage at all). Occasionally you can penetrate the frontal plate. But if you want to be sure, just aim and shoot for the little angled panels. The little ones that “ connects “ the frontal and side armor. You will most likely kill the crew from there.

Weather if you are on his side, always aim for the engine, you get a chance to se his tank on fire.

For the m8 you can’t really go wrong as it can be penned from everywhere unlike the m5 ( for some reason ),

The Sherman is actually a bit harder than the previous ones, but not impossible.

When it’s facing you, try to aim for the left side near the cannon so you take out his gunner. And than, try to hit its frontal plate at the very edges. Just near the port machineguns. That’s where are the ammo stored.

If you faced on the side, you can’t go wrong as the “ box “ shape to the front hull, are where the ammo are stored.

And lastly, the jumbo.

There is not much that you can outside hide and hope that he doesn’t sees you, or must be really blind.

If you face it frontally, aim for the hull machineguns. That’s the only frontal weak spot. And after that, I suggest you to reposition your self. Because he can replace the gunner much faster than your reload speed.

If you managed to flank it, aim at the turett star ( little insignia ) and lower the gun to the tracks. And than shoot there. Because that’s where shells are stored, so you can 1 tap him.

Hope this can help you, cheers.

P.s. don’t forget to angle your tank when facing opponents. Angled armor for the German is always better than flat frontal/side armor to expose, as they can penetrate it with relatively no issues.

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I would say about 75% of the time a 75mm HE will insta-kill a Puma - but not always - I’ve sent 2 or 3 in with no result occasionally, switching between them and AP also with no result.

One game I got 6 Puma’s in a row with HE on the airfield - it’s really effing inconsistent! :frowning:

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Awesome and detailed explination. I agree with this. Angle armor, flank. ambush.

And work with your team ^^

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You might be confusing the Jumbo and the Sherman. I had no issues penning Sherman with Panzer IV H. Panzer IV H will always win on top against Sherman. Its only Jumbo that you will have an issue,

You will need to Flank the Jumbo, or hit it through the MG Port

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Thank you for all useful reply.

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Dont shoot near/down by the wheels, shoot side of the tank and don’t hit the turret either. HE will kill it every time. His angle does not matter either, if you can see just a small bit of his side and you aim there, get a green marker they will explode in 1 shot every time. If they don’t you are shooting to low or high.

Actually there are a few pumas in the practicing range, try it, I killed 20 of them just to be sure after posting this. 100% oneshot detonation from side shots if you can get one.

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Yeah Vs Puma you want to use HE shell not AP. AP is useless against them except certain spot where you can get 1-2 kills. But its just better to one shot them.

I one shot them all the time on my Chaffee, Sherman and Jumbo, they are the easiest to kill

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Yep, HE in the side = 1 dead Puma.

I get kind of bummed when they’re facing straight on as I need to switch shells.

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I wonder… in war thunder, there was a saying: “No armor is best armor” because bigger AP shells would merely clip through the tank (of course taking the componant in the direct trajectory) but also leaving the rest of the tank and more importantly, crew, mostly intact, due to the absence of shrapnel caused by pierced armor… Could this be the case here too with the puma? Knowing the devs here mostly used data from war thunder and pasted it here. Also would explain why a HE shell obliterate the puma as it normally should.

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Yeah, you pretty much have to crew snipe or ammo rack/module hunt with AP. There’s little to no post penetration shrapnel on solid shot and crew members are fearless.

If HE pens armor though… It’s glorious.

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