Normandy axis's top smg (mp43 excluded)

What smg do you think is overall better than the rest?
I just unlocked m38 recently and I cant decide if I should commit to it or not. I like m1918 alot for its VERY high rate of fire, I like zk383 for its bigger mag size (more sustained fire) and good fire rate.

Its hard for me to say that ZK is better than m1918 because the rate of fire is decreased by 200/300 rounds per minute.
Thats a big sacrifice of fire-rate for 5 more bullets. zk383’s fire-rate is still very high compared to other smg’s.

I like smg’s with high rate of fire because I believe that through volume of bullets, I dont only just kill people quiker in close range, I can hit more consistently and kill from mid- to even long range because the hail of fire is bound to hit them more than once.

Now m38 makes me feel more conflicted. Its fire rate is not as good as those I mentioned (which goes against my doctrine), but it makes up for it with lack of recoil/better accuracy (hitting targets more consistently) and bigger mag size (40 rounds per mag), which means more accurate sustained fire down range. Its besically a slightly better version of mp40. mp40 is known for being flexible, good fire-rate, good mag size and easy recoil, a gun that makes consistant results. I used it alot until m1918 came.

I have been high on csgo-p90-syndrome for a long time, m38 feels so damn slow compared to my main guns (m1918 and zk383), but I still remember the joys of killing people with mp40.

Should I go back to my roots? Idk, what are your guys idea of good smg.

honestly the only bad Axis SMG is the mp34(osteriech) as the rest are fairly good at different things:
FNAB-is fairly slow but surprisingly accurate
Mp40- good all rounder
m1918- fairly good at CQC
zk383- can be used as an LMG with no recoil by just proning
Mp35- good damage and controlible
m38- is a larger mag MP40

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I’ve picked up all of them off of dead axis forces and they are all better than the allied SMG’s save the Thompson.

m3a1 is good, but yeah the ally SMG are fairly underwhelming

M3a1 is almost good.

only really good when fully starred, would honestly prefer that since the m2a1 is a gold order weapon

The M1 all day. Had to grind allllllllll the way to end to realize how utterly devastating it is. I haven’t tried the m2a1 yet. I’m scared to pull the trigger. Only 2 tokens.

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m2a1 is just the m2 carbine with a faster firing rate and better damage

Yea I really cant see spending something so “rare” on any of my options. Doesn’t seem worth it.

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Personal opinion is the Zk-383 is quite possible the Best Axis SMG. Not because it does one thing perfect, but rather it does a lot of things ‘good enough’ and one thing amazing (being able to prone and act almost like a pseudo LMG) .
I am comfortable with its sighs, and how it’s recoil is mostly in the horizontal plane so you tend to know how to control it in a knife fight. ITs ROF is good (Not quite M1918 but in CQC but its no slouch either).
I actually hope at some point this weapon is brought over to Berlin. I would love to outfit a squad with it over some of the guns I currently have there.

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Pick all of them and put it in your squads, it’s fun.

Using 1/2 tipe of smg is boring, but all the axis smg are good so you can do it.

m1 thompson is better than mp43 don’t @me

nah mp43 is disgustingly good in any range :wink:

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Definitely, not saying its not. m1 thompson just has it where it matters

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How is the m1 anyways, I’m only 5 lvls off but I can’t really be assed to finish Normandy campaign since I’be got others to grind

its a ppd with .45. can mow down a 9 man squad in just over a second at close range. definitely worth it, i honestly do prefer it over the mp43, but mp43 is more versatile and easier to use well. In the hands of a skilled player the m1 thompson is far more potent tho

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Please. Even mp34 works as intended :slight_smile: it’s easy to control and has decent rof. I think it even have a bigger mag in Normandy (only 20 bullets in Moscow, but still decent)

My worst smg of all time is the allies shower pipe smg, the sten. It just shoots all around the place…

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I was talking a out axis Normandy only since all other axis smgs are just better than mp34(o) also pls give the mp28 its original mag back or just give it a fire Selector

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But if the Tommy (the last one) is the same as in Tunisia, then once enough allies players have it the one sided stomping should stop. It’s very good (in Tunisia) and can reach absurd rof, so it will beat mp43 cqb, equals it mid range (only with vert. Reduction perk) because of volume of lead shot. It will never beat mp43 at longer range though. :thinking:

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its underrated asf