New BR4 TT semi-auto rifle for Western Allies

[Valkay]

Mas-44

Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - semi-auto rifle, Allied tech tree Tier IV.

The Mas-44 is a gas-operated French semi-automatic rifle firing 7.5x54mm rounds and is fed by a 10 round detachable magazine. The Mas-44 is based on the Mas-40, a rifle that had been in development since 1931 and was planned to become France’s standard issue rifle starting in 1940 this however was prevented by the outbreak of the war.

In 1944 the liberation of the Mas armoury opened the possibility of mass producing semi-automatic rifles, the Mas-40 design was revised into the Mas-44 with the experience gained during the war and the fixed 5 round magazine was replaced with a detachable 10 round magazine.
In very early 1945 the Mas-44 went into mass-production with a total of ~7000 rifles made before production had ended a few months after the war had ended.

Although the rifle had many advantages over the M1 garand such as higher reliability, very easy maintenance and a detachable magazine preventing garand thumbs, the Mas-44 had only seen a limited deployment with the French navy and French commandos due to logistical and heavily political reasons.
Even though there was major shortage of M1 Garand and M1 carbine rifles in the Free French army, therefore creating a high demand for a semi-automatic rifle capable of replacing the Garand.

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Further possibilities

Premium Mas-40

French partisans/guerrillas armed with Mas-40
In 1944 when the French resistance “liberated” the factory, the thugs ransacked everything from material to the rifles, they did more damage over a few hours than German occupation over 4 years.
Most of the rifles ended up on the black market and France was pressured by the Allies not to buy them back.
Because of the unfortunate turn of events, regular army units surely didn’t use these weapons, however the French resistance did use them, this is why I believe that the Mas-40 should be equipped on a guerilla squad. (ideally a female partisan squad for a little diversity)

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BattlePass Mas-40
The standard Mas-40 came with an internal 5 round magazine which was reloaded via stripper clips, however some Mas-40s have been converted to accept 25-round box magazine from Chatellerault M1924/29
Furthermore the Mas-40 could accept scopes.

A 25 round magazine fed semi-automatic sniper rifle would be truly unique.

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alternatives to the Mas-44

Hallé rifle

A pre-ww1 British prototype gun with detachable magazine.

Howell automatic rifle

WW1 SMLE conversion, saw limited use in WW2 with British home guard.

T3E2 Trials .276-Caliber Garand

@SzepWaxweiler

T3E2 is Garand prototype might want to change that the main rival for this rifle was Pederson’s T1E3 rifle BTW it uses 10 round enblock not stripper clips

Edit: some details were corrected by SzepWaxweiler, thank you!

While there are alternative options, none of these rifles fit the time line.
The Mas-44 is a WW2 made in thousands, not some weird prototype with less than 50 made of them so in my opinion the best candidate for BR4 rifle is the Mas-44.

[Bkworm07-live]

The Howell auto and the mas 40 would be awesome

[lolispats420]

I like it, unfortunately the earliest production dates of the 44 I could find were winter of 1945, long after the war had stopped. Granted, that hasn’t stopped some things like the M26 T99, Su-9, and M1D from entering the game, but still.

MAS-40 is good to go though since ~50 were produced before the war kicked off, though. Would be a good analog to the Armaguerra.

[Valkay]

@lolispats420

I like it, unfortunately the earliest production dates of the 44 I could find were winter of 1945, long after the war had stopped.

the sources vary on this.
here is mine: MAS semi-automatic rifle 40, 44, 49, and 49/56
I found this the most accurate based on that this was the most detailed and accurate of all.

the Mle 1944, with serial production starting in early 1945.

However even my source agree that the weapon´s first real large scale deployment was in 1946 Indochina because US didnt want this gun going to infantry so these were given to navy men and commandos so it only saw limited use in WW2.

[Adamnpee]

Thank you for your great suggestion

[Valkay]

thanks you!
Its nice to know that players appreciate the research, even though Im starting to doubt Darkijin will add this rifle or anything really new and unique at this point.

[SzepWaxweiler]

@Valkay

Main rival of the Garand during trials

T3E2 is Garand prototype might want to change that the main rival for this rifle was Pederson’s T1E3 rifle BTW it uses 10 round enblock not stripper clips

Here is picture of en blocs used compared to stripper clips

And here is T1E3 compared to other rifles (This reminds me there is a very rare British trial Pederson rifle which could be added , they are sometimes called “PA mode” but official name is T2E1 , you might also see them called Vickers-Armstrong pedersens since they were made by Vickers-Armstrong )picture below

Anyway nice suggestion .

[Valkay]

@SzepWaxweiler

T3E2 is Garand prototype might want to change that the main rival for this rifle was Pederson’s T1E3 rifle BTW it uses 10 round enblock not stripper clips

Thanks for the correction!

[Willcario]

@lolispats420

I like it, unfortunately the earliest production dates of the 44 I could find were winter of 1945, long after the war had stopped

doesnt stop darkflow from adding the t99 pershing or su-9

if it was drawn on paper before the end of the war then its fair game

[Valkay]

@Willcario

doesnt stop darkflow from adding the t99 pershing or su-9

Thats what she said

@lolispats420

Granted, that hasn’t stopped some things like the M26 T99, Su-9, and M1D from entering the game, but still.

[Willcario]

oh lol i should probably not jump the gun on replies so much

[Valkay]

@Willcario

if it was drawn on paper before the end of the war then its fair game

Those frog eaters even made some of those rifles during the war according to my source: MAS semi-automatic rifle 40, 44, 49, and 49/56

[Unzen79814632]

Since the Johnson rifle and the Type 4 to the BR3 I hope these weapons can be added to bridge the gap, they also have a 10-round detachable magazine
1.Nambu rifle(Japan)

2.MAS44 rifle(Western Allies)

[Valkay]

google translated:

looks promising

I was considering ZH-29 since Siam had used them and Japanese captured ZH from Chinese nationalists.
Or adding Type Hei (late) to tech tree.
But Nambu rifle would be better.

[Winter_Storm]

@Willcario

e t99 pershing

t99 isn’t post war it’s the 250th pershing hull for detriot arsenal which would place it during july of 45

[GiltBurrito7238-live]

I disagree, the MAS 40 should be RT in the possibly that France is added as an Allies sub faction. Gonna need an early semi auto

[Veekay45]

Yeah I don’t think it was there until “winter of 1945” but Darkjin really don’t care

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@Willcario

if it was drawn on paper before the end of the war then its fair game

I wonder what’s the craziest “technically WW2” Gaiflow-style shit they might come up with down the line?

Germans defending beaches of Normandy with Ratte, Kolibri and Horten as Allies carry out beach assault on flying jeeps, Tortoises and lend-lease TG-5 from USSR?

…

[Conqueror51448]

Currently, Japan lacks BR2 and above sniper rifles, and if they can, they should let Swiss weapons make up for it, I propose to give K31 Sniper, I like her in Battlefiled 5

[Conqueror51448]

Because they have already added a SIG1930 submachine gun of unknown origin to the Japanese camp, it is not known whether it was captured or bought, and it should not be a problem to give other Swiss weapons