Honestly, this in coming nerf to the low-BR Japanese weapons feels like the first real step toward proper balance. For the longest time, playing U.S. at low BRs was just suffering—no bolt-action or SMG could stand up to the Japanese ones. On big, open maps like the Pacific, facing something like the Arisaka at BR1 with its insane 72 rpm was basically a massacre. I’ve played about a thousand matches as U.S., and my takeaway has always been the same: Japan has been way too OP across all BRs.
Most players already know how strong the Japanese side has been. Sure, DF kept buffing them to get people to play that faction, but come on—most of us just want to roleplay our favorite WW2 armies. Making Japan ridiculously overpowered doesn’t add fun; it just drives away new players who don’t want to get stomped right out of the gate.
And let’s be real: everyone knows how the actual Pacific War went. The current in-game performance is almost the exact opposite, which is kinda funny in a sad way.
So yeah, nerfing Japan is the right move if this game wants to keep growing. Otherwise, all you’re left with is a handful of anime-fed Japan fanboys having their fun while everyone else quits out of frustration.
Balance makes the game better for everyone—not just the loudest minority.
The nerfs to Japan is just damage control by the Devs, but I think the uragan uptier was a good choice.
yes
The USA needs some changes in low BR too
XA-38 BRIII to BRIV
M1A1 Thompson BRII to BRIII
Spitfire LF Mk IX BRII to BRIV
Laighs in superior Lee-Enfield
Laighs in superior Ross
Laughs in superior Lancaster
Laughs in superior M1A1 Thompson
The Type 100 Early buff without immediate BR change is unexcusable, but other than that I’d much rather have US/Commonwealth… well everything in terms of both gear and vehicles, the only thing that’s better is the Type 38 rifle in BR I (and later Tokyo Arsenal and Auto Hei in high BR, but that’s not the topic here).
The only thing the US doesn’t lack in their line-up is skilled players. That’s it. All US players know how to do is camp, corner camp, and play sniper whilst camping. Bairly any of them even understand the concept of a Engineer (unless it’s to build a AA gun and camp that), let alone the W key.
This would partly be remedied by a full subfaction revilization, because I’ll switch tomorrow from the Axis and Japan if I could play the faction I actually want to play, the Commonwealth. Sadly, that’s not an option, and I’ll continue to dunk of Allies players until this is fixed.
- Born to drink tea, force to collect Anglo scalps for the Emperor.
Yeah, I totally agree with the Uragan uptier. Its stats are basically identical to the Type 2 SMG, and compared to other BR2 weapons it’s just way too strong. Both of them really belong in BR3, no question.
99% of USA players Lol
I’m with you on wanting British as its own subfaction — I’d 100% switch to them too if the option was there. Lee-Enfields, Ross, Brens… that lineup would be amazing.
But here’s the thing: even if/when British becomes a subfaction, you’re still going to be facing the same Japanese lineup. If Japan stays as overtuned as it is now, the British will end up suffering just as much as the US does right now. Basically, by not supporting nerfs to Japan now, you’re setting up your future main faction for the exact same pain.
So yeah, better to fix Japan’s balance today rather than let them keep stomping tomorrow’s British too. Unless, of course, you actually want to collect tea-drinker scalps for the Emperor forever.
I just don’t agree that Japanese low-BR guns are the objective supperior to Allied ones, that’s the issue here.
There’s the Type 38 Rifle, which yes is the best BR I rifle in the game.
The rest? It’s on par with the allies, if not worse. They’re not identical, they are different, but I don’t agree that they’re better.
Again, US/Commonwealth are really strong, absolutely competative, heck the Lancaster is a candidate for the best BR II SMG, only contested by the Soviets, and the Lee-Enfields + Ross are God-tier, the BARs are great and so are the Brens.
And we haven’t even gone into vehicles, where tanks are objectively supperior to Japan, and tech tree aircraft are balanced (just don’t turnfight a Zero, lmao, don’t fight any battles on their terms and you’ll do fine).
They are still stronger than Germany. Soviets will have harder time playing vs Japan post nerf than vs Bot & Newbie nation of Germans.
I don’t know what to do about the Mk IX Spitfire. There are later Marks that should be added to the game, such as Mk XIV, or 17 and/or 18, they should absolutely be a BR higher than the Mk IX in turn, but neither of the Mk 14, 17 or 18 are BR V worthy (thanks Jets, basicly only the Mk 20+ variants will do here now).
Maybe just BR III? It’ll definetly still be King of the Hill, but it would still leave room for expanding the list.
Edit: The Fw planes would be serious counters to the Spitfire in BR III (due to high speed, great armamaments, and supposed high turnrate in high speed + high altitude engagements), but they all still remain broken after several years…
The problem is that it has a very good turn in BR2 and plays against the BR1, BR2 and BR3 planes of Germany that don’t have much turn, I went back to using the Zero BR2 in BR3 to beat this Spitfire
And he wouldn’t do badly in BRIV, he still beats all German and Japanese fighters BRIV and BRV on the turn and has the highest climb rate of a non-jet fighter in the game.
To that I’d say: don’t turnfight a spitfire?
Same as with the Zeros, just don’t go madly into a brawl with one of them, be more strategic. The highest turn stat will always win, so just don’t if you know your aircraft is poorer.
And I do think that if they just FIXED THE GOD DAMN BROKEN FW FLIGHT MODEL AT SOME POINT then it would be a serious counter to the Spitty, boom and zoom is how you counter a turnfighter (P-38s are great Zero hunters for example, the FWs should function the exact same way).
The type 100 definitely needs bumped to BR2…but everything elese for Japan is crap. The aircraft, tanks, LMGs, even the AT are just not great . This kinda balances out the faction so people will play Japan. Since the Manchurian campaign is SUPPOSED to be coming, the type 100 really needs to match the PPS43. It really isn’t a problem unless you are BR1…I can beat them with any faction at BR2, and when playing them can beat any faction. Ideally a Allied SMG could get bumped up but they do have a Thompson at BR2 now.
We know how the war went so we might as well all pack up and go home?
You’re delusional if you think the spitfire deserves a 2 BR uptier. Maybe 1 but definitely not 2.
It has a better turn than practically any BR1, BR2 and BR3 aircraft of Germany and has the best climb rate of a non-jet fighter in the game, is it BR2? Of course not
I hate these guys who defend the most absurd things of their faction
Low ammo count and a single bomb make it only BR 2 (even BR 3 is pushing it) worthy while also being harder to obtain because it’s an event plane. Are you that close minded that you only focus on the one thing it excels at?
Oh and it’s not my faction, I play everything
Yes its perfectly balanced plane the best things devs can do is move the spitfire to BR III or IV and give it Bigger bomb since I absolutely destroyed all the Ki-100 planes with it xD
I hope you’re not talking about me, I thought I was being reasonable.