Nerf the AVS-36's damage

Then what if both sides are 9-man squads?

I can’t see problem this two gun.
if you need powerful and high accuracy with semi auto use AVS-36
or
Use AVT-40 if you need easy recoil control with full auto

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because of armor of course

that damage difference really doesnt matter for distances in this game. you would change something like 1 hit from 220m to 1 hit from 200m. if germans had body armor, then that difference would be significant, otherwise it doesnt matter.

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not really. fire rate mostly matters on smg where recoil is low or on something like stinger where you can waste ammo and recoil is low(for mg). for guns with high damage and small magazine(aka SF rifles), medium ROF(500-650rpm) is preferable cause of ammo management and recoil control.

with AVS/fg42 i dont need 5 bullets in really short time to down/kill someone, but 1-2. with smg i need 2-3 bullets to down and further 2 to kill. that is why fire rate is important there.

We’re talking dps gap when the weapons kill in one hit :rofl:

For god’s sake, learn to burst fire

Just invest in the vertical recoil control skill already.

Do you seriously expect every Soviet opponent you meet to have body armor? From what I’ve seen, two-thirds of my braindead Soviet teammates are running around naked.

Here’s a really dumb question: Why do two rifles with the same caliber and same BR have a 0.5 damage difference—especially after the fire rate buff?

Having such a hight RoF is pointless if you do not have a big mag size, anything over 650 RoF with a mag that is less than 30 rounds is not really that good, lower RoF on rifles makes them way easier to control, the soviets particularly are very good on chain killing entire squads due to having a good balance between RoF and Mag capacity, whenever I play against the soviets I turn away for one second and my entire squad is dead, thing that unless you are playing a machine gunner is not easy at all to achieve as a german.

With this fire rate, emptying a 15-round mag versus a 20-round mag by holding down mouse1 only differs by a fraction of a second—it’s practically negligible.

Once again: crouch or learn to burst fire.

Whatever. Just go play the M2 Carbine instead.

stfu I am not asking for advice.

Doing this makes it playable, bearable, still the point remains, there are ways to get around but this does not mean that the point I made is wrong.

Don’t bring up stats to try to ad hominem in defense of a bad suggestion.

Yes, because those who dont bring it aren’t difficult to deal with anyways because they have no idea how this game works.

The top 3 enemy players are always bringing armor and meta gear - and those do usually 80% of the work.

Tell that to MG42 killing in two shots despite using the same round and Kar98k

Then why do both FG42 variants deal 15.3 damage, while the AVS-36 sits at 15.8 and the AVT-40 stays at 15.3?

If it was simple as that I guess we would see quite alot of nerf memeberetta topics.

But apparently theres more to picture than just rof & dmg.

Then where do all those ‘nerf PPSh drum mag’ and ‘PPS-43 is OP’ posts come from? Aren’t all three of them dominating precisely because of their high RPM?

In reality, those so-called ‘top 3 players per match’ are all spamming TU-2 or SU-9 bomber spam. Just one guy in body armor carrying a team of braindead lemmings grinding the frontline.