My thoughts on the merge, after 1500 games played

I didn’t have any problems

Git gud
Pistol only is fun and you can easily get 1st on your team
Mauser C96 Mod. 712 and Colt M1911 Swartz go BRRRRRTTTTTTTTT

Panzer 3N is better at killing infantry than King Tiger
Sd Kfz 234/2 is better at flanking than King Tiger
and Crusader can penetrate King Tiger’s frontal armor

King Tiger actually sucks :joy:

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It means the enemy you are encountering are bad.

Lol use some rare machine pistol as example?

King tiger is better at killing tank than panzer 3N and better killing infantry efficiency is useless when you can also be easily killed by infantry.

Flanking is useless when you have grey zone.

Since when?

vs equally skilled oponents or vs noobs and bots?

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Enlisted is an infantry game.You should play Warthunder or WoT if you want tank vs. tank.

Greyzone: left the chat

Greyzone: joined the chat again
Flanking is fun

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Lol so you can’t read the whole sentence?

So stuff like bazooka and at gun is not existing for you?

Useless for grey zone tank.

That is a tiny weak spot instead of the frontal armor, try to do it on long range?

You played against bots.

Panzer 3N also gets blown up more easily and sucks against most BR3+ tanks.

Very important for greyzone camping.

So can a M5A1. But you still do not use them against BR5 tanks.

What is wrong with you?

Great idea for a change tbh and all for it to be implemented. Engineers are a must-have in any match and having to grind for them at first is a big letdown, especially if you play the unfavoured faction at the time. We could exchange the sniper squad for engi, so that there is less newbies sniping and more actually playing the game.

Put this idea into suggestion, I think most would be in favour of moving Engi I lower on tech tree to allow more impact even for newbies. Also devs might not notice it here in Mess room, so putting into suggestions is a better way of letting them see this.

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I just realized I put this in Mess Room XD Edit: Fixed

Yep, might be reason the discussion went haywire.

yeah … probably. Its in Suggestions now though.

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Often times there is no difference when it comes to comments.

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I mean, those capable should at least try to have a thoughtful discussion about the topic, before moving to measure each other’s d****. Especially in this case, where skill/capabilities is not even part of it, just the pure idea of starter Engi I squad, instead of having to grind for it.

Btw has anyone looked into getting a better Tutorial for Newbs? Covering spec. classes like Engi and showing their benefits in real-time scenario whilst also yielding a reward at the end could be a nice introduction into a team-based game, instead of Run-Shoot-Cap.

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The Panzer IV G should’ve definitely be folded with the Panzer IV F2. Its simply just a waste of time, grinding basically the same tank again. And a waste of Silver.
I’d also like for Italy to be separated from Germany, like sub trees in war thunder. Saves way more time, and you will have to research less useless weaponry.

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So enjoy fighting bots with a bot team, in a dying game, then?

You’ve never gotten a pistol kill in High Tier before? Dang

Ok. Bye.

Lol so one pistol kill is enough for you?

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One?

mmhmm … is mildly annoying.

I actually have an entire other thread going over my idea for a NPE challenge system that rewards an Elite Engineer Squad for completing each faction’s challenges. Suggestion: New Player Experience Enhancements [Boot Camp “Tutorial” Event] - Suggestions - Enlisted

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Regarding being able to research deeper in the tree (“Tiers should be the only prerequisite.”) - I like that as well, though I fear the Devs won’t since it will “shorten the game” as people skip lower tier equipment. It also removes a bit of immersion as soldiers had to actually suffer with inferior equipment as well.

Plus, it makes the Devs more money in that that silver has to come from somewhere, and they obviously seem hesitant to make silver readily available. (Having to drop 13k in silver twice last night on tanks I’m not using is not fun, but it makes the Devs smile.)

I like your recommendations to move Engineer I to one of the first squads to research.

I think it gives the squad a bit more significance and importance that giving it as a default squad may not imply to a new player. Yet, it doesn’t make it take that long to earn and start using.

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