My overall thoughts about LMG nerf

So, there’s mainly three things that the devs nerfed on LMG.

  • Decreased aim speed of LMG by 30-40%
  • Nerf LMG prone shooting to have more recoil without bi-pod
  • Increased the bullet dispersion on LMG while shooting on the move

Now, the first two nerfs makes sense to me, decreased aim speed of LMG by 30-40%, makes sense because LMGs are heavy and bulky so okay.

Nerf LMG prone shooting to have more recoil without bi-pod, well, i hoped they implemented proper and more smooth bi-pod interactions first but the change itself is not that bad i suppose because there’s this ‘dolphin-dive shooting’ issues.

Now, the third one, Increased the bullet dispersion on LMG while shooting on the move, this is what i can’t really understand why they chose to do this way, perhaps overdone.

My first issue on this is, it looks really weird that your gun & barrel looks quite stable but only your bullets go spread like crazy as if you are firing automatic-shotguns, it looks almost supernatural if you try to shoot your LMG on the move now.

My second issue is, while i can somewhat understand that the bullets go spread like crazy with LMG hip-firing on the move, the bullet dispersion shouldn’t be THIS much if you actually do Aim Down Sights with crouch position even on the move with LMG in my opinion. Currently, there’s absolutely zero differences on bullet dispersion on LMG whether you hip-firing without ADS on the move or Firing in crouch position with ADS on the move.

My third issue is, LMG is now the only gun class that acts like this way. all other semi-automatic rifles, automatic rifles, SMG, bolt-action rifles doesn’t have this kind of penalty, they still can shoot with laser precision on the move still. This makes me really awkward to use LMG especially after i’ve used other guns first, because LMG is the only gun class now that acting special like this.

My fourth issue on this is, now there are some “LMG”(More like automatic rifles honestly)that unreasonably suffering from this change, guns like BAR, Madsen, Bren, Chauchat, MG 30, Breda 30, Zb-26 etc for example. They were pretty much acting like a semi-automatic rifles that can do full-automatic shooting rather than full LMG, now with the change, i’m not even sure what’s their purpose anymore and that the guns like FG-42 or AVS-36 does better jobs than them now.

Now, what’s the good of suggestion if there’s no solution to it?
So, in my opinion, there’s two ways to solve these issues.

First one, revert the dispersion nerf on LMG but instead makes LMGs very unstable(Much more horizontal and vertical recoil to it)when try to shoot it on the move. With this change, the gun itself would actually looks quite unstable so it wouldn’t look so supernatural or artificial too while shooting.

Second one, keep the dispersion change but adjust a bit. For example, currently there’s no differences between shooting LMG on the move with hip-firing like rambo and shooting LMG on the move with crouching with Aiming down sights. Make it so that shooting LMG on the move with hip-firing still makes bullet go spread like crazy but not with shooting LMG crouching with aiming down sights on the move.

Thanks for reading this somewhat long post, have a good one.

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OP’s suggestions sound sensible to me.

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I dont mind the nerfs, imo lmg-s are still pretty good. On the other hand it would been better to make bipods actually usable, before they nerf them. Also most of the axis lmg/mg-s (mg13, zb26, both mg34 variants) were capable of shooting in single fire mode, which could help with the bullet spray, yet its not in the game. Even the ppsh has a fire selector in game, which i dont think anyone has ever used.

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i did sir!
it’s not the purpose of this gun? :clown_face:

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I have to say only on things to all people wo never shows up in the forum unitl now and now complain about the first change in the functioning of the “LMG” :clown_face: (not op him/her as good point)
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Sorry, but i think your the biggest :clown_face: here atm. On the other topic you sent screenshots from the webpage, that says “this game is realistic” also saying that MG-s shouldn’t be used as AR-s, and this isn’t an arcade game, although when i make a point, that guns should have the same firing options like in real life, because of realism and historical accuracy , then I’m a clown. BTW posting a screen from your mediocre match with 100 kills, proving your a good player is pretty laughable.

Ok and wo says the game is arcade?
Wo says the mg have to use like an AR?
The dev! No! They say this is a semi-realistc game not an arcade one
And i not give you a clown but of all people wo never showed up in the forum for give feedback but wen the dev start changing the gunfire in game immediatly they showed up making tons of topics on “omg lmg nerfed this game is unplayable” if you has touched for my post even if i dont point you it means that you are a clown and yes I am a good player since I almost always do the first place without vehicles

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Ps
I made a lot of time the error of dont read correct the post of another user so I advise you from now on to read well to avoid other situations of this kind

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this is game of the year, soon we will hit 1k player base

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We have 200.000 players go to check the summer event result

:rofl: yea man das rite :crazy_face:

You have to alligator tears in your head go to a good medic

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whats the problem man…? i just confirmed that what u said is rite :smirk:

Write in german with emoji how many years you have?

Back on topic:

I don’t mind the “nerf” per say at all to be honest, as it has no impact on my play style.

I do want the devs to perfect the bipods system however. With that working lmgs would be fine like they are now :thinking:

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This.
And I would also sugest to make exceptions for BAR, Chauchat and FG42 as they were meant to be used in the move.

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was fg42 even affected by this cause its semiauto rifle in this game?

No, but imo it should be moved into LMG category. That’s why I included it here.

I never thought LMG’s should be super easy to use when not mounted, but the update just made it suck. This is a way better idea to handle it.

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