My BIG SMG Rework 🔫 (USSR,JAPAN and ALLIES)

whatever, i give up, believe whatever you want, i gave the links that ussr did not receive 12- or 30-round magazines;

that ALL OF 30-rounders are very much post-war;

that EVEN ON THIS SAME FUCKING PHOTO mag barely sticks out compared to the real 30-rounder, but very much consistently with all the pics of 12- and 20-rounders that you yourself are posting;

that the fucking article that Wikipedia uses as a source for the number of Soviet Reisings has ZERO mentions that they used 12- or 30-round magazines, or that this claim is even uncited and BS in its nature;

that SOVIET MANUALS have zero mentions of 12- or -30 round magazines that “the best and the most reliable source of information ever created” insists on being used

just check the fucking comparison between 12- and 20-rounders and how they even look like, i am not gonna bother any longer

This is not true this is carabine version and the other is SMG… and i will show you why give me a sec:

The semi-automatic Reising Model 60 .45 ACP, shown (top) with a 12-round-capacity magazine, was intended for civilian plant guards and other security personnel. The Reising .45 ACP Model 50 Submachine Gun, shown below with a 20-round-capacity magazine, was adopted by the Marine Corps in early 1942. Photo courtesy of Smith Photographic Services, Shreveport, La.

But there is something wrong since


So maybe its possible that you are right and the author mentions 30 rounds but he is not saying when but then how can one be 12 and the other 20 when they are really the same size so the mistake must be the in game model that is actually a 12 rounds mag and not 20 and the 30 round mag from the pictures is actually 20

Let me remind that there is only one type of stens in the upgrade. Not right.

Such diversity will allow adding new samples from the first to the third BR.

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(my favorite is the Mk5 in black furniture :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel: :point_right: :point_left: ).

PEACE AND ORDER :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel:

I think that the Patchett is much better than the Lanchester. And its 50-round version deserves BR4. And the 32-round version can be left at BR3.

I also read somewhere about the allies using 9mm Thompsons.

And I also continue to insist that the US needs a 100-round Thompson for technical tree.

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It is known that 35-round magazines for the PPSh were roughly modified with a file in order to use them in the PPD 40.

I also see a lot of foreign weapons for factions in this thread. I’ll suggest captured MP-40s for the USSR. And give the premium partisan unit unique bags for shells. In addition, their weapons are already modified for its use.

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Well the rate of fire is a bit too low for BR IV thats why i think its more of a BR III :smiley:

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20 rounds for double stack mag with single feed - less reliable 9 like MP40 mags)
12 rounds for single stack mag with single feed - more reliable, less ammo for same mag height.

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maybe but what are this Soviet Mags then ?

Cuz in game we have it seems the 12 round mag and not the 20 if there is no 30 rounds:

And the one here is 30 rounds and the 20 round mag looks too small and in game 100% we have 12 rounds… he time traveled in to the future and took in to the past or the in game mag is 12 round mag and somehow fires 20…
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This one is also 30 round mag.

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And this one is single fed mag or its the 20 the Russians at least had 3 types of mags for this gun.

I think I figure it out :


So the in game mag is wrong it has a model of 12 round mag but it fires 20 rounds ???

For those wondering why there’s not a Mk IV on here, it’s because the Mk IV was a unsuccessful design that never left the prototype stage, but the Mk V was being developed at the same time and designations had already been decided so the Mk V remained the Mk V.

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I like it the idea

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I liked the topic just for him.

In general, I personally see BSA as an excellent T3 smg
Unfortunately, these are just dreams…

you didn’t need to shorten the magazine visually, If I’m correct, the 12 and 20 round magazines are the same length, the magazine on the TT Reising is visually a 12 rounder. The mag on the M55 in game is a correctly modeled 20 rounder. The 12 rounder is just a single stack version of the 20 rounder, you can tell because the mag is ribbed.

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Well yes the mag in game is wrong is 12 round mag that somehow hold 20 bullets this is the 20 round. But what are the Russian mags I presume they are 12 but look different then the 12 standard and even the M 55 in game has i think wrong mag also cuz its the same like the Russian guy that looks like the 30 round mag but its actually 12. It turned out there is 2 types of 12 round magazines …and one is modeled exactly like a 30 round.

This one is 12 rounds

First to the Fight: The Marines’ Reising M50 SMG

Just go to 14:00 when Ian talks about the 30 round and i thought that’s a 30 civilian round magazines that Ian talked
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And its the same like this one and probably not a 30 since it has only 3 visible holes I only presume that the mag is ending the soldier hand but even so thats not original 20 rounder since it must have 4 holes if its 20 it has only 3 so it must be 12 ??? Or 20 since didnt have this holes at the back ?
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Normally the 30 round have them and the 20 rounds didnt had holes on the mag or if it had its got to be more then 3

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That’s a 20 round with holes and then we come to that LM4_Luna and yet Ian talks about the civilian mag of 30 and the jornal talks that the 30 round mag was too late for WW 2 why they are even mentioning it if its in the 80s…

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20, 30, 30, 12, 12

12 got ribs on the side, 20 are the same length, but are flat, 30 are the longest, its as easy as that

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Yes thats correct but what is that type then:
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The in game one if its 20 it needs to have one more hole:


Thats 20 rounds


And those with the 3 holes are they 12 or 20?

This is how I recognize them I have 20 and 12 mags but they have no holes I and only the 30 round have holes I never knew there is small mags with holes then I looked and there is 20 round with holes but it has more holes and those on the pictures have 1 hole less then the 20 round mag with holes.

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its a normal 20-rounder

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Well I guess there is slight difference in mag designs I will presume they are the same as the ones that have 1 more hole.


Is it possible somehow in USSR you modified Thompson mags to be used for Resing ? Or in your literature you like to put extra bullets in the mags ? Probably its just a mistake and its the same 20 round mag. Cuz im confused really they are supposed to be 12 round 20 round and civilian 30 but somehow you have some different mag

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Long version of PPT-27.

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I have no idea they have 4 types of mag for a gun that is supposed to have 3 and the 30 round I have no idea when the civilian production for them started. I presumed is 30 round then 22-24 but on the diagram it shows 22. So I can only presume its a mistake or they modified Thompson mags somehow to be used on M50

Very sexy.

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100% badass SMG Mosin vibes :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel: :dromedary_camel:

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