Multiplayers Games with console controllers vs PC mouse/KB

Please do consider putting players using console controllers apart from players using PC mouse + keyboard.

In each and any multiplayer game I know it’s a mess and totally unfair. And if you plan to not remove console controllers mechanics for PC, then do put a big tag or Icon on people who are using them so we will know who is skilled or not.

Don’t get it wrong, I do like using console controllers on mindless games sometimes by my sofa just eating “popcorn” and pushing a button and even at work sometimes.

AIM assit is just ridiculous ! Get rid of it on PC.

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I think the solution is not to tag them, but to remove them. Controller players need to play with controller players. KB&M need to play with KB&M.

There are good aiming mechanics in the game and with KB&M it’s very tactical. Controller players are essentially allowed to ignore those and aim instantaneously. Stealth play is also hurt because controller players can find you in bushes without seeing you. Let’s remove all the vegetation from the game, then!

An example from real life: imagine two cars, one on the road and one on the rails. The driver in the first one actually needs to use the controls and keep attention while the second one which is on rails is just moving forward doing almost nothing. It’s the same with KB&M and controllers.

Several more matches like that - and we will cease playing the game.

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I belive console players have the option to disable crossplay.

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Also, I did play enlisted on a ps5, aim assist is visible but it’s far behind from my mouse in my hands. Way far behind.

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Honestly, when you can play such kind of game with controller and with KB&M and compare it’s a huge difference.

Take Red Dead Redemption 2 for example. It was a good one on consoles with controller, but shooting was simplified because of auto-aim. There is not much enjoyment in just pressing a button, seeing your gun auto-adjust itself and then firing. But RDR2 auto-aim at least was not giving players automatic head-shots, it was a body shot.

On PC with KB&M it’s a completely different kind of game. Combat feels differently. You need to aim yourself and it’s something that requires learning and skill. But in the end it’s worth it as all your kills feel deserved.

Controllers are not bad, but auto-aim is not a good way of resolving the lack of precision on joysticks. If anything, any form of auto-aim encourages players, especially young ones, to go easy way and use auto-targeting. It’s laziness and it leads to even more laziness and also from developers who want to attract more casual players this way. Encouraging players, especially on PC, to learn KB&M is much better and in the long run will lead to better games with better more skillful gameplay.

Remove completely?

No. People been asking to play with friends from different devices for long enough.

Add the OPTION to turn crossplay off as a pc user (like for console users):

Yes.

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People do know, that a console can use a mice and KB, yes? and some of these console players are very good also, they don’t all use controller etc.

The people of WT never whinged about the console people as they knew, that there was real players, and games are more fun with more peeps.

I was there about 3 months, when WT added the console people to the game, is about the only reason WT is still going, except for the hard core PC users that have spent so much they will never leave etc, they add console user to game for a few reasons.

a, To add more players, as they have PO there PC player base, they left game, when, they keep just adding stuff, and never fixing real issues, before adding something else which would always break the game again, then rush to fix game, then add more stuff to break it again, never ending cycle.

b, they want more players, to make $$ off, because at the end of the day, they don’t really care about the game/gameplay, as long as there something new, people will buy.

Do u really think Gaijin/DF would make a free game, because there nice guys, and want the people of the world, to have a free game, i don’t think so, no one invests time and money for something to be free, so they add you can buy E gold/WT gold, for people, who don’t want to grind away for years, so they may lvl quicker, its not pay to win, despite all those free loaders sitting around all day whinging about everything, they can not adjust too, and ofc whinging its p2w, when its p2 lvl quicker.

To the console whinging about PC, and PC whinging about console players, one has a option not to play with PC, yet PC, don’t get that option, very strange, tbh, i was surprised that there, where no console players, in game till a few days ago, it was just PC users whinging all the time, now we have console and there whinging all the time, too funny

WT and Enlisted are both great games, don’t get me wrong, but it could be better if they cared.

Yes, to attract all kinds of players AND make it fair, enable mouse & keyboard for console players at least. The code was already in there, just let those who have M&K connected to use them in game, then PC & console players can fairly play together. Or add a switch to alllow controller match making or M&K only. It should be categorized by controller type, not game platform type.

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This is not related but since you’ve played both, did you notice any issues with choosing the side you play on within console?

like the team you want to play ? either axis or alies?

theres an option under the start button “Join any team” dont have it ticked , then what ever side you have pick (squads shown on lobby) will be the ones you gonna play with.

you can always play what ever side you want after selecting a axis or a alies squad.

1st untick this box:

then select either axis or alies

after it just press Start to find a match :slight_smile:

hope it answers ur question.