MP43/1 nerf is atrocious

I’m going to say what I always say, and none of you are going to like it.

As long as it can still kill people, it will be good.

So unless they made it completely impossible to hit a target past 20 meters, I’m not worried.

I consider enlisted weapons to be almost aesthetic changes barring a few exceptions here and there (FG-42 for high fire rate and low recoil, mg34 patrontrommel for mag size, for example) due to the fast ttk.

Not a lot of people share my sentiment in this regard, but I don’t see it any other way.

I was so hyped for the STG in Berlin (Why mp43?) for looks alone.

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6star .45 acp - 8.2damage, mp43 - 8 damage.
Pistol round now more powerful

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Full star .30 carbines-8 damage

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Same, but .30 less powerful than 7.92x33

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That is full starred .30 carbine compared to a stock 7.92 kurz, a full starred kurz is 8.8

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my apologies, I haven’t gotten to the game yet, but the news has already disappointed me.
Yes, the .30 does less damage than the .45 acp, which is odd, but it’s a reason to look there.
The 0.6 damage difference seems like a ridiculous advantage for the “assault rifle” that is the mp43 over the Thompson. I don’t see a single reason for such a nerf (rate of fire, damage, reload rate).
In Berlin the mp43 went up against the Fedorov, which has many pluses (in some ways it loses), in Normandy the US was given the new best machine gun in the game, which is not bad and I am not against it.
But to ruin a legendary weapon is idiotic.

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While at the same time in Berlin: absurdly OP Fedorov, combined with -40% perk highly controllable, x2 times more accurate than MP43/1(Mp43/1 and STG44 has literally x2 dispersion compared with Fedorov according to datamining), and does 11.5!!! damage when fully upgraded:
Fedorov

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Yeah. So they sent the most iconic axis firearm in the “average sub par compartment”. Berlin isn’t worth grinding anymore for me, just like Moscow. I’ll from now on become an allied Normandy main, their weapons are funny and they’re not blatantly better like Soviets ones.

Meanwhile, Stalingrad has somewhat balanced weaponry. Not a bad campaign

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Let alone Berlin Axis has a pretty small playerbase, unless you play at night in NA server there are pretty many bot matches. The solution of devs: nerf MP43 and give Soviet extremly OP Fedorov, let more Axis players leave. I don’t even have the interest to touch Berlin Axis anymore for even one match, even though I’ve maxed out before

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well, they are trying hard to “nerf” the meta, however reducing the fire rate of weapons that actually had a even “higher” rate of fire like the PPSH 41 makes no sense,

Technically the STG had a slow rate of fire, so i dont think the STG nerf is nonsense, however the PPSH and the MG42 should have 1200rpm just like they did in real life.

Dude the new Axis SMG in Moscow is INSANE, seriously it is really good!

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I know it is (same as Stalingrad with different name and appearance) But is it that much better than ppsh41?

Please convince me because I’m abandoning this campaign completely if not… :frowning:

Dude I am not stopping you at all lol.
I’ll probably upload tomorrow a video with some clips of today, I’ll give you a link so you can see for yourself if it is worth it. I am having real fun with it!

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You’re giving me hope. It’s what I need :stuck_out_tongue: this campaign got more and more one sided with time and I grew tired of it. I’ll trust you if you say the Kiraly can hold it’s own and try it, it’s next unlock lvl anyway so shouldn’t take too long.

Thanks! :slight_smile:

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I’m fairly certain they were. I believe abour 100 Mkbs were issued to the frontline for testing on the battlefield. Which about fits how rare it is to see it.
Reasons why they shouldn’t be removed:

  1. It’s one of the few decent weapons the axis have to counter the op soviet hordes.
  2. Many people (me included) have not stopped grinding Moscow axis just for this one gun. It’s the only reason Moscow axis has any type of playerbase left.

Add to that that it shouldn’t even be there as anything but a gold order and you get something which is funny until you realise it’s reality and then it’s just painful.

I don’t think this will have any effect on the player base in berlin. I mean, no one cares about Berlin axis anyway, as you wrote. It is uncharacteristic and offers nothing new compared to Normandy.

I think it’s a pointless change, but it doesn’t make that big of a difference in my opinion. It still drops people.

I’d almost be willing to buy that somewhat, because hitting someone with a .45 within 10 meters will absolutely fuck them up.

I admittedly don’t know near as much about the 7.92x33 cartridge stopping power in comparison. I wouldn’t be surprised if at close range, a .45 would be more fatal though.

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No, there is a reason why any modern military weapon (not a police weapon), uses an intermediate cartridge.
The designers simply foolishly equated the MP-43 and Fedorov into the same class. But the Fedorov is actually an automatic rifle, and the MP-43 is Closer to an SMG, since the damage is less than 10, twice dispersion of the Fedorov.
No point in ruining the best weapon the Axis had, besides it wasn’t the strongest in principle.
The nerf is significant. 10% damage, 15% rate of fire, 10% reload rate. It’s very tangible.

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The reason modern military’s use intermediate cartridges is because it allows them to carry more ammo. It has nothing to do with the bullets stopping power.

If they cared about stopping power, they’d be using something like a .308.

I haven’t used the mp43 post nerf, but I truly doubt it’s ruined. If it is, then I’ll care. But I’m expecting it will be just fine.

Edit. I completely misread your comment

Imma just make a whole other post lmao.

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