MP-717(r) vs Kiraly 39M

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For some time I’ve been thinking which weapon for tankers is better. The MP-717(r) or the Kiraly 39M?
Both of them have some stats better than the other one so I can’t decide.

I like that the Kiraly has more damage, reloads so fast and has higher ads speed, but has a lot of recoil and is kind of hard to control, while the mp717 has more bullets in the magazine, fires slightly faster, has less recoil, is more controlable and has lower hipfiring dispersion factor, but deals less damage and reloads slower.

Also I’d like to know which weapon the Ai solders are better with.

What do you guys think?

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Neither, I just use the historically correct MP 38 or 40 depending on the period of the war the tank they’re crewing is from.

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Mp717 is better for a tanker - its easier to controll and thus use at medium ranges, I use them in my Jagdpanther quite often.

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I think Kiraly 39M will be stronger.
However, the MP-717(r) is also an excellent weapon. Compared with the Kiraly 39M, it is less difficult to use.

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M-717(r) is better than Kiraly, but I use MP-43 anyway.

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I would say MP-717(r) is better for tankers cause if you are like me you probably got like 35 of them and have to offload them somewhere.

The tank’s main purpose is to tank, and if you have to bail out of the tank its probably cause you got targeted and your tank is about to blow up. At that point your best bet for survival is to sprint away from the enemy any spray in the direction of whatever infantryman shot you with a bazooka or threw an explosive pack at you.

Anyone who has dismounted their tank in the middle of a firefight knows that it is disorienting, and you will never spawn at the side of the tank you think you will. If you got targeted by an enemy they are watching you get out of the tank and can probably kill you faster then you can kill them. So if you think of that situation I would think the large drum mag of the MP-717 is the best to spray in the direction of the enemy to kill them or suppress them so you can get to cover and orient yourself to continue fighting as infantry.

The Kiraly is a great SMG that is more accurate and has a higher hit power than the MP-717, but with the downside of a smaller magazine half the size of the 717, so it really depends on your preference, but I would go for the MP-717 cause of the ammo capacity and the spray-ability in those moments when you have to dismount your burning vehicle with the enemy already looking at you and ready to shoot you.

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Kiraly is worse in basically every aspect.

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You can’t use ARs with tankers.

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I use a Conders instead and the rest MP717r because magsize matter more when the Top MG is reloading

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For a tanker, kirai is worse, kirai itself is the best SMG game

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Sorry, I have read too fast :flushed:

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Kiraly is the best weapon Axis got after FG 42 II. It’s god tier and undoubtedly the best smg in the game.

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kiraly without recoil perk is bad and tankers need other perks more, so the mp717 wins clearly.

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I have 20 mp717(r) and use them exclusively on tank and pilot crews.
Since its no longer purchasable, most don’t expect the meet it especially in the hands of a tank crew so I can reliably kill 2-3 enemies quickly after getting out of my tank.

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I just use mp 41(r)

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i love the MP-717(r) almost as much as the Cönders.

I equipped my bomber crew with 1x MP-717(r) and 4 x Cönders, they are a force to be reconed with when they land.
( do anyone have more than 1x MP-717(r) btw.? )

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hehe :smile:

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mZwecwpIGs
Always Mp717(r) since they are pretty controllable without any recoil perks

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of German PPSH41s

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