The description says it has been “re-chambered” for 9 parabellum. To my understanding, the chamber was untouched and the BARREL was changed. A more correct (again, to my understanding) description would be “re-barreled for 9 parabellum”.
Not that this matters; just thought I’d point it out.
Update: I was wrong about all of this. I would delete this post, but that might create the impression I’m try to cover up my mistakes. You are all now safe from my misinformation.
(Changing the barrel will hardly serve a purpose if the bullet won’t fit in the chamber.)
Well “rechambering” doesn’t necessarily mean changing the chamber, its more of a universal term from gun nerds that the weapon now uses a different type of ammo.
You might be technically correct, but its not really that important of a detail.
didnt the real gun have like mag adapter or something i swear i read or hear somewhere that german made a mag adapter for mp40 mag to use on mp41r
That’s the thing, to my understanding, the 9 parabellum round will fit in the chamber with no modification.
It’s an open bolt gun… the chamber on those (and most guns afaik) is a part of the barrel. Here’s what it looks like when it’s chambered for 7.62x25mm Tokarev:
See how it’s shaped after the cartridge?
And how it’s literally just a part of the barrel?
If they’d have just somehow made a 9mm parabellum barrel with a 7.62mm Tokarev chamber, the gun would literally explode if fed with 9mm parabellum…
And even if it was “just” a barrel change, the term would still be the same because you’d still be changing the caliber of the weapon.
What do you think the chamber is exactly…?
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First off, I did say “as I understand it” and “it’s not really important” so if you’re going to pick it apart, well, congratulations.
That out of the way. Even if the chamber is attached to the barrel; the barrel is the part that is being changed out. To say a round will “chamber” means it will physically fit in the chamber.
By way of example. A 9 mm Luger round will CHAMBER in a Mauser C96, but the results of trying to fire it would be… catastrophic. This is why the 9mm C96s had a big red 9 on the grip, to prevent someone from making that mistake.
Saying a firearm will chamber a round does not mean it will fire it, or that it will fire it safely. Sometimes, the chamber and the barrel are two separate and distinct parts and changing the barrel will allow the firearm to safely fire a round other than the one it was manufactured for.
Sometimes, either drilling out or putting the sleeve in the chamber (to increase or decrease it’s diameter) without changing the barrel will allow a different round to be used (as was the case, if I remember right, with the .30.06 Chauchat).
Point is, there was no modification done to the PPSh to convert it to 9mm other than changing the barrel and adding a magazine adapter to the magazine well. If the chamber was attached to the barrel, I’m not sure. I am reasonably certain that 9x19 WILL fit in the chamber of a 7.62x25 or 7.63x25 weapon, but will not safely fire from such a weapon without a barrel change.
I could have it backwards, though.
It’s the reverse. 9x19 won’t fit into the .30 Mauser chamber, but reverse is easily possible - and the results potentially catastrophic. The big 9 was put on the grips to remind users to make sure .30 Mauser rounds didn’t make their way into a 9mm chamber.
The chamber isn’t attached to the barrel, it is a part of the barrel… I’ve shown it…
Okay, I’m stupid and you won an argument on the Internet, congratulations.
yep that magazine adapter thing
