Move the A6M2 Zero to BR1

This is currently the only BR2 fighter for Japan, and it is quite underpreforming for BR2. To justify the lowering of BR, I will compare the main stats of the Zero to the BF 109 E7/U2, a fighter at BR1 that is the most similar to this plane, as well as the Hurricane mk 2b since it’s the main US BR1 fighter.

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The guns of both aircraft are quite similar, two 20mm cannons with 60 rounds per gun, as well as two reserve rifle claiber MGs with a lot of ammo. This makes the damage done by the A6M2 very similar to the E7/U2, despite the lower BR.The Hurricane has 12 rifle caliber LMGs, which on their own don’t do much, but because of the number makes it a quite effective armament, a decent option in comparison to low ammo but harder hitting 20mms.

Bombs

The E7/U2 has a bomb load of four 50kg bombs, while the A6M2 has only two 60kg bombs, which preform essentially the same as 50kg bombs, which makes the Zero quite bad in dealing with ground targets in comparison to the BF 109. In addition, the hurricane has dual 250 pound bombs, which are moderately more effective compared to the 60kg bombs.

Speed

The Zero has a max speed of 541 Kph, while the BF 109 is much faster at 612 Kph, 71 Kph faster. The Hurricane has a max speed of 532 Kph, moderately slower compared to the Zero.

Turn speed

The turn speed of the Zero is 12 seconds, which is very fast, compared to the 109’s 16.5 seconds, which is a nice aspect about the plane. The Hurricane has a competitive turn speed of 14.5 seconds, still slower then the Zero (but little can outturn it), but helps it very much in air combat.

Summary

In general, the Zero is, in general, is worse then the BF 109, due to combined aspects of speed, bomb load, and having to deploy using the lengthy carrier takeoff that makes hunting bomber formations impossible due to the time needed to take off and gain speed, and only really better in turn speed, which comparitive aircraft are the opposite. I think that it could be moved to BR1 to give japan a more strong BR1 option like the other countries, since the A5M4 dosn’t cut it in many situations. Of course the issue of having no dedicated BR2 fighter arises, but for the time being the Zero can still be used at BR2 until a new plane is introduced.

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Why are you comparing stats of planes that aren’t fighting each other? That’s not how balance works.

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Japan needs more planes overall. Because most of them are just bad. Soviets for example have planes which are so good I have no problem using in higher BRs.

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I stopped reading after this.

Go earn some experience flying some more then come back.

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Well I had meant more in terms of ease of use. Sure it turns faster, but it seems everything else is much weaker in comparison to BR2 fighters, particularly bombload and guns, and the carrier takeoff really kills it and makes it less appealing to most IMO. I guess I just might dislike it and unfairly be judging it, but I’d rather take any other BR2 fighter or some BR1 fighters. I’ll admit it’s been a few weeks since I’ve used it, I’ll try it again today.

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It’s the closest analog to the Zero, and given the similarities to that, it seems a logical decision. Sure, I can compare it to the Hurricane, I’ll make edits.

It also saved my Zero COUNTLESS times! Imagine an immortal fighter you keep grazing when trying to face to face (it’s all you can hope to do. You cannot be on a Zero’s 6.) But never, ever dies.

I use the Zero STILL in br5 :smile:

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It is quite a nice mechanic I do quite like, being able to repair, but I usually get shot down before I can land unfortunately, but plenty of times the AA cannons on the carriers have saved me. That feature, I very much like. I saw a video (I think it was either yours or Myrm1don’s) of using the A5M4 and Zero at BR5, quite impressive flying and destruction of planes, although I don’t think I have near as much skill to try that lol, I’d pull my hair out trying to destroy Meteors with similar turn times.

Must be my mentor @Myrm1don as I just don’t do videos…

But yes, funnily enough, my “big gun” in Pacific is the Zero. I take it after my Ki gets shot for some reason and always claim revenge with it. There’s not much anyone can do about it other than a zoom and boom. And even then they risk falling as the Zero … will always face you.

That’s why, it’s far from being an underperforming plane :slight_smile:

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I think the Zero performs fine at BR 2, if a bit worse on paper compared to other nation’s BR 2 fighters. It could also fit in BR 1 if Japan had a more fully populated tech tree, I think.

Japan just needs more planes!

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I don’t see it as br1, as no… it doesn’t underperforms.

Quite the opposite.

But! Id put it in the pilot 1 squad. To spread out planes in TT. Then put the first pilot 3 plane into the pilot 2 squad.

Br is fine for them.

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Wth the Zero is such a treat. That’s one thing I look forward to the most playing as JPN, spawning this exquisite fighter

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Zeros scare me :scream:

They Demand respect…

There are some BR 1 options…when they get around to it.

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Probably this one. Its been a while…i havent tried japan vs jets yet.

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It’s like for other factions:

Jets are used as bombers. And so… are prey. Just, fast prey.

Because jets can’t maneuver well with small maps :thinking:

So nimble propeller planes, rejoice!

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Offtopic (sorry) but have you noticed the carrier AA struggles with jets…

I picked a few guys off the carrier deck, going so fast the carriers either didnt fire or missed

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I noticed that as well, I was chasing a P47 going towards the carrier with a Kikka and I was able to pick him off and the guns only lightly damaged me, it was only when I had throttled down to cool the engines I got hit and died.

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I did… :expressionless:

F**ers. But the trick is to make them turn while they’re over them. So their speed goes down a lil.

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jetsvsbiplanes meme

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You get it! :smile:

Oh! Something funny!

  • Some ppl truly started to bring lil biplanes in br5!!! For fun and giggles but they really do! :laughing:
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