Move MKb 42(H) to BR3

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Don’t whine and don’t cry

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you are free to make better one

bullet velocity is the only thing ppsh box has worse than mkb.
Both recoil & Spread aka dispersion are by far better on ppsh.

Make sure you add those equations on your new calculator since simple ttk is not enough.

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No, that shit would waaayyyyy op, BR4 would work tho

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Ok

Damage Reload Timings (s) Statcard Recoil Actual Recoil Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name Obtained BR 10m 100m Velocity Magazine Reload Alt Reload Rate of Fire Vertical Horizontal Recoil Control Vertical Horizontal Dispersion While Aiming Hipfiring Visual Recoil Recoil Dir ADS Speed Recoil Offset Sprint Factor Weight
MKb 42(H) 122000 RP V 8.0 6.2 680 30 2.4 2.0 500 45 11 0.3 14 3 0.75 0.0 6.0 1.6 0.31 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5
MP 43/1 124000 RP V 8.0 6.2 680 30 (+1) 2.6 1.95 600 41 10 0.3 12 3 0.70 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5
PPSh-41 (Box) 58000 RP III 6.6 3.3 450 35 2.4 1.9 1150 21 9 0.4 8 4 0.21 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.4 0.82 0.3 100% 4.1
Damage Reload Timings (s) Statcard Recoil Actual Recoil Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name Obtained BR 10m 100m Velocity Magazine Reload Alt Reload Rate of Fire Vertical Horizontal Recoil Control Vertical Horizontal Dispersion While Aiming Hipfiring Visual Recoil Recoil Dir ADS Speed Recoil Offset Sprint Factor Weight
MKb 42(H) 122000 RP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 2.4 2.0 500 38 10 0.3 11 3 0.53 0.0 6.0 1.6 0.31 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5
MP 43/1 124000 RP V 9.6 7.5 680 30 (+1) 2.6 1.95 600 35 9 0.3 10 3 0.49 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.3 0.7 0.3 100% 4.5
PPSh-41 (Box) 58000 RP III 6.6 3.3 450 35 2.4 1.9 1150 21 9 0.4 8 4 0.21 0.0 15.0 1.6 0.4 0.82 0.3 100% 4.1

That is colored by neuro. Yes, AR damage is better, but TTK is equal, or even worse(if no vitality), and PPSh has far more better accuracy, despite the uncritical difference in velocity. So, MKb would be in balance at BR3 after a little PPSh nerf

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25

I would agree the StG 45 to level three as well as the Horn. Both suck extreme donkey balls at level five, and most likely would still suck donkey balls at BR4 as well, especially with the current match making system which would still lock them both into BR5 matches. :wink:
Horn and StG45

Both are completely unusable at level five, and with the Dev’s infatuation of locking weapons to premium and event squads, we can’t even rearm them with usable weapons. So, if we’re going to be forced to use the weapons provided, at least drop the squad to a level where the squad is not a complete liability to use. The “ONLY” saving grace is that you can change the ammo pouch for secondary weapon, but then your just screwing yourself on ammo to get a better gun.

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26

Nope. Do germans have Coenders-like SMGs in TT? Maybe, any LMG with high sprint factor? Therefore, no other faction except Germany will receive BR3 assault rifle.

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people unironically suggesting that Germany should have assault rifles moved down to BR3

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great idea it be hard at first limiting the game to
us vs japan
and Germany vs ussr
because the 30 round thompson is in no way comparavle to an assault rifle
but i think in time people will understand giving up us vs Germany is in every way a sacrifice worth making to bring assault rifles to br3
because you are cracked if you think us vs Germany with assault rifles at br3 is fair

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Let’s start with the gold order MKb 42 (W) to BR4 because that definitely wouldn’t shake the balance too much and see how it goes.

Then maybe MKb 42 (H).

But Jesus Christ not this please:

I want to have at least one BR without having to face fantasy Soviet ratatatata AK-47s.

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30

BR 3 = Hell nah
BR 4 = yes, this was already noted

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31

What are you doing? This is an offer for Germany, you have to accept it. You only accept topics about Germany

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32

What about the stg45? That thing plays like a grease gun, would it be acceptable at br3?

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it would be OP at br3, but br4 is perfect.

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Horn and StG45

wow grease gun fully upgraded 9.6 damage The M3 "Grease Gun" was designed to save money and kill Nazis
Yep 8 sure is the same as 9.6 I am so good at meth, I mean math

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Yep only germany topics:

You should try to apply your forum complaining skills to your in-game skill, maybe you’d learn to control recoil of soviet guns

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This one is delicate, players did ask for it to be br 4 which was done, not br 3
I don’t think it would be received well

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I said it played like a grease gun not identical to a grease gun, besides a grease gun has a 470 rpm and 8.2 damage whilst the stg45 has a 450rpm with 9.6 damage so the grease gun makes up for it with some rpm not to mention it is br2 unlike the stg45.

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450 to 470 is not a bonus it’s a rounding error, a 4.44 percent superiority is not an advantage it’s a statistical sneeze 10 to 20 percent is meaningful if the stg was 450 and the m3 grase gun was 495 to 550 it be worth talking about comparing rpm. Or if the m3 was 470 and the stg was 420 or 370 it would matter

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Don’t forget that the Grease Gun has a muzzle velocity comparable to a baseball pitch from a somewhat above average high-schooler.

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This is coming from a console player who has automatic weapon aiming and reduced recoil. Oh yeah, yesterday you sent me a screenshot of how you cut out the bots, well done

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