Depends what situation you are comparing…you just wrote it (different standards). Solothurn was essentially released to what amounts as being prenerfed (up BR’d and mechanicly nerfed, double whammy), Yet the XA-38 was clearly a better A-20(BR 4) at BR 3…
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I go to BR I because I have BR I gear lmfao. Crazy idea I know. Same reason I play BR4 despite it mostly getting uptiered. I use all the gear in the game because why wouldn’t I?
Self serving? Sure I guess, I want less HE in the game and BR I-II generally has less HE. Will I have trouble taking out the 15cm sIG? No, because I have planes, guerrillas, tanks, AT rifles, etc. But do I want to be blown up by them and have my teams get farmed by them and force me into a plane or tank when I just want to chill and shoot bolties? Also no.
Last I checked a 30m blast radius is bigger than a 15.5m blast radius. Which mean more unfortunate victims per shot. And it’s still 2k more shrapnel/min than the Scott. If your argument is none of these HE slingers should be at BR II, full agree.
I agree with the “spirit” of your idea in regards to BR 1. But just a different means. Ever since merge I have been waiting for the day of BR ±0 for BR 1…I want to relive the old days of panzer IIs and T-60s ramming each other 
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I think the SIg is a BR 2 vehicle and is to the KV-1 as the KV-2 could be to the Tiger. I have long requested KV 2 be BR 3. Now that BR 3 cant see BR 1 its viable.
We just now need the BR 1 ±0
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I made this one a year ago, but there are alot more recent ones from other posters…or do you need another one made? (The majority of the suggestions in this post from a year ago have been implemented) This was before the TT one but its still the same reasoning.
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as a german main i wouldnt complain if the kv2 was in br3, I know once it fires its shell I’m completely free to charge it head on and start throwing bombs at it from how atrocious its reload is
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I actually believe that BR2 has the most HE, with all factions possessing artillery with a high firing rate of around 75mm. They can not only penetrate BR2 tanks, but also have very strong anti infantry capabilities. 
In fact, only BR1 has less HE.
I disagree.
Enlisted is a perfectly designed game for tons of HE.
The bot squad bot serves as a good targets for HE while also serving as an ultra fast respawn for a dude recently killed by HE.
All you have to do is babysit your bots. Not letting them to just brainlessly follow you everywhere you go.
No other MP game has the potential to let players enjoy so many explosions.
It would be extreme shame to dull down enlisted on this field.
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Tbh this vehicle looks like I can frontally crew kill it with a sniper rifle.
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Incoming XA-38 moment where after people saying it should be BR4/5 then it actually comes out and it ended up not being all that much of a problem at all.
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This is a meme tank that can be destroyed by anything.
This wont change Soviet dominance at br2.
Imagine youre a new axis player and face mulitple assaulter squads decked out with
Body armour
Uragans
Assaulter 4’s
On top of a t28e and p40.
In any case, there shouldn’t be such a caliber on 2db, it’s crazy. However, in beginners and early tanks, there are such all-destroying equipment that has a recharge of not even 11, but 8 with a perk. This is absolutely unacceptable, but there are also cumulative shells that work even harder on infantry and have 185mm penetration, in general, this self-propelled gun as a destroyer of any tank is much better suited than the Kv2.
Beretta 38/42
Assaulted 4’s
On top of a pz4f1, pz3j1, puma and Iar + Ju87 500
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The 38/42 is not better that the pps 43 nevermind the uragan.
The t28e is the best br2 tank.
The p40 is the best br2 fighter.
German assaulters cannot equip body armour.
The power levels are no where near the same.
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I played the second level in Germany, and the win rate was 85%, while the Soviet Union was only 70%。In fact, Germany did not lack anything in the second class, and I often evaporated 7 people with one magazine of the M1918. That is, 3N was moved to BR3, so the Germans had to start using their brains or start walking in BR2 because they didn’t have 
it。So don’t complain about what Germany lacks, the last thing that is lacking in BR in this game is Germany. IF 15CM IS IN BR2, WHY MAX IN BR3? HE IS ONLY 105MM, AND THERE IS NO NEED TO MAKE BR2 HOT WHEN BR3-5 HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN BAD.
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38/42？MP？why not use M1918 it’s better than any smg in BR2
I never stated on using the 38/42.
I just pointed out that its inferior to the pps 43 and uragan.
It was based off a comment i made about what a new axis player could experience in a game against br2 soviets.
Great you should go pro in CS2
while mine is at 78.47% which is very close to Germanyt while also having better KDR
And in my experience Soviets are stronger than Germany across multiple BRs, WR is lower only because teammates a lot of the times don’t have brains to build rallies/capture points they just grind kills
We both know it’s not true their unlocks are the weakest of all factions especially in smg department
It’s a subjective opinion not a fact, you can kill 10 people in a single magazine of mkb35 does it mean that Germany is the best nation in game? Ofc not. Soviets can use PPS-42 and murder your entire squad both at close and mid range as their recoil and sights are so comfortable to use.
It’s the soviets that have no brains, at least Germans are still winning through a sheer will despite having crappy guns and bad tanks and mediocre planes (IAR is only good plane), they always build plenty of rallies and spam apcs
I will complain as the are the weakest nation at BR2, BR3 and BR5 are also suffering hard after soviet buffs and still not fixing ppsh-41 box, they having svt-38 and unnerfed rmn-50. Dicker is at BR3 as it’s a counter to KV-1 and Sherman it has more reliable one hit kill capacity than Sturmpanzer ii that has to pray to God every time it engages enemy tank.
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First it would be better to see how it performs ingame. I think with barely any armor, it should be oneshot from every tank and easy killable by AT weapons…
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It’s ridiculous. Germany has the most complete system of all BRs, and this alone does not need to be discussed.Maybe you need one click to win.
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Hate to break it to you, but the whole point of this is how the Soviets vs. the Germans are just better. How many of those battles were against the Americans? Whenever I seem to play the Germans, nine times out of ten lately I’m up against the Americans, not the Soviets. Therefore, any of those games that are against the Americans are irrelevant and shouldn’t factor into your data as we are discussing the Soviets versus Germany, not Germany as a whole.
As for the original post, just no. This tank doesn’t need to move to BR III. I feel that it has been demonstrated that it can adequately be destroyed by pretty much anyone with a thread of experience. Sure, maybe the newest players won’t know, but they’ll learn.
I also think there’s a big part of this that is being overlooked that was kinda mentioned by @ErikaKalkbrenner ; how much are we going to see this tank in battle? I mean, sure, of course a lot during and right after the event due to the cool factor, but I mean in the long run. No armor, little mobility, open top; why the heck do we think we’re going to constantly see it at BR II when we have better tanks (Pz. IV F2) just with a less powerful HE?
But what’s the good side of this tank? More powerful HE. Yeah. Totally makes this a good idea to move it to BR III just to protect the “HE spam”. To be honest, lately I haven’t even noticed HE spam between BR II and BR III. I’ve played probably 6-8 games in the last 24 hours (half the Americans at BR II, half with Germans between BR II-III) and none of them had a significant issue with tanks. On top of this, I’ve played about half of those games in BR II and the other half in BR III; with BR II, I pretty much just faced BR III, and vice versa with BR III. Maybe I am having a different experience than everyone else, but I really think that this tank is going to be a non-issue.
However, it does seem to me that any time Germany gets something that is just slightly better or more overpowered than something else (this tank, the Duck, Pz. III N, etc.), everyone freaks out. Sure, Pz. III N getting moved was the right decision, but you understand my point. But, as other posters and countless others have mentioned, the Russians have the PPSs and the Uragan at BR II while Germany only has the Beretta M1918 and PPSH Obrez to match that firerate (with neither gun being as accurate) but yet we don’t hear the masses screaming about how we have to change their BR and the devs actually listening to them.
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