Mörserträger 38(t)

I would like to suggest the Mörsertröger 38(t) which was first a proposal for a Platform on the Pz 38(t) Ausf. M chassis to carry 8 cm, 10 cm, 12 cm, 20 cm (Leichter Ladungswerfer) and 38 cm Schwerer Ladungswerfer Mortars. One prototype was constructed, but not finished, as the development was stopped in favour of general Waffenträger that could carry a wide array of armarments instead of just different Mortars.

Cince it wasnt actually finished, beyond the Vehicle itself and it was unarmed, the different armarments could still be implemented as multiple vehicles or modifications (or both)

In game it would add a fully tracked and better armored Mortar carryer vehicle along the other Halftracks Sd.Kfz.251 and 250, with a even greater armarment option up to the 20 cm leichter Ladungswerfer and 38 cm Schwerer Ladungswerfer

It would make the allready available mortars, better. Because its mobile, greater ammo amount and greater calibers, currently the 10 cm and greater arent available.

The Vehicle is quite similar to the Flakpanzer 38(t) allready in game or to the Marder III Ausf. M, however with a long extention of the heavily angled front plate to create room for the ammo and offer protection to the high extention that creates the fighting compartment where the Mortars are located.


Pictures:(Click to show)

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The Vehicle:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (65°) Front glacis
20 mm (14°) Lower glacis 15 mm 10-15 mm (40°) 8 mm(over the engine)

Weight: 9,8t
Speed 43 / 7 Km/h
Engine: 150 Ps


Armarments:

8 cm Granatwerfer 34 (Actual diameter 8,1 cm)
Fire Rate 15-25 Rpm Highest velocity 174 m/s Elevation 38,8° to 88,9° (So you can even hit right in front of you.) Traverse 8,89° to 14,4° (Depending on the elevation)

Ammo:
There were multiple rounds available and captured French and Nether 8,14 cm rounds could also be used, however i will only mention the 3 game play wise interesting ones:


8 cm Wgr. 34 He 32,9 cm length 3,5 kg 0,565 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (723,2g TnTa) 174 m/s 2400m Range

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8 cm Wgr. 34 Nb Smoke 32,9 cm length 3,5 kg 0,22 kg Filler 0,5 kg Smokestuff 174 m/s 2400m Range

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And the most special round, which would also be effective against tanks:

8 cm Wgr. 40 He 56,4 cm length 7,5 kg, 2,5 kg or above 3kg or ~5 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (3,2 to 6,4 kg TnTa) Filler ? m/s 950m Range (Sadly the source on this isnt very clear)

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10 cm Nebelwerfer 35 (Actual diameter 10,5 cm)
Fire Rate 10-15 Rpm Highest velocity 193 m/s Elevation 45° to 90° (So you can even hit right in front of you.) Traverse 28° Range 3025m

Ammo:

10 cm Wgr. 35 He 7,26 kg 1,7 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (2,176 kg TnTa)
10 cm Wgr. 35 Nb Smoke 7,3 kg 0,075 kg TnT and 1,88 kg Smoke mixture
10 cm Wgr. 37 He 7,3 kg 1,28 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (1,64 kg TnTa)


12 cm Granatwerfer 42
45° to +84° elevation, 8° to17° traverse
Firein mainly 2 rounds, (and optionally russian captured) at 8-10 rpm

12 cm Wgr.42 Ausf. E at 280m/s up to 6km 15,6kg with around over 2,2-2,5kg Fp.02 and Np.10 filler (2,816 to 3,2 kg TnTa) as well as the same with a smoke filler.


20 cm Leichter Ladungswerfer

93 kg 88 m/s 700m range 37° to 85°

20 cm Wgr. 40 24,27 kg 7 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (8,96 kg TnTa)


38 cm Schwerer Ladungswerfer

1658 kg 360° traverse, elevation 37° to 85° 107 m/s 1000m range

38 cm Wgr. 40 149 kg 50kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (64 kg TnTa)

Source:
Geschossringbuch II+
Hilary Doyle Panzer Tracts
Munition der Granatwerfer
H.Dv. 481/66

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would be first fire support vehicle with indirect fire gun, and not rockets, and mortar infantry have been situational

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I love vehicles like these, but IMO we shouldnt start adding unfinished prototypes just yet.

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My next suggestion will be the Sd.Kfz.250/7 Ausf.B
Which is armed with a 8 cm Mörser. And AA/GP Mg 42.
And not a Prototype.
Tho this one was of great interest to me because of the great size of armament.

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