6 m8 rocket, br2 or maby br3.
2 500lb and 4 hvar, br5.
10 RP3 rocket, br5.
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Comrade, in your infinate wisdom I ask you to reconsider this BR placement, the BF 110 G-2 was recently uptiered from BR 3 to BR 4 because it had four rockets, maybe giving six to a BR 2 plane is a bit excessive…? I don’t think BR 1 players should have to deal with rocket spam either…
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Well, it can be moved to 3, but I have reasons for the decision:
This plane has a worse loadout compared to other BR3 planes, the P38 has 20mm cannons and 6 m8, the FW 190 has two Wfr.Gr.21 rockets(strongest rocket in the game) and 20mm cannon.
And still in BR2 the P38, classified as CAS, is better, has a 20mm cannon.
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Although I agree that the proposed mustang should be BR3 (at least if the mustang is a D variant and not a B or C) There are multiple planes with six or more rockets : P-38G, I-153, soviet Hurricane, IL-2 1941…
The main difference is that the Bf-110 has the single largest rockets in the game (Oh and I think that it should have stayed at BR3).
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This is fair. I admit, I forgot about the P-38 being BR 2, though that one at least has the disadvantage of being quite the poor fighter (you shred people when you got them in your sights, but you’re rarely winning a turnfight so your best friend is speed/energy). Though a P-51 with rockets would be the P-38 with none of its drawbacks. Main armaments are “weaker” but it’s not like they won’t the job done with six HMGs? Plus, letting them cycle two strong planes in BR 2 that can rocket spam would NOT be fun on the recieving end…
Fair again, though the Soviets are atleast hindered by having quite poor fighter planes with rockets, I don’t think anyone could argue the same for the P-51. Having these fighters, especially when paired with the IL-2 1941 would make them incredably vulnerable in the air, any competent pilot would be able to take the both of them out. The same can’t really be said for a BR-2 pairing of a P-38 and P-51. It’s more about their combined usefulness, I think, that seperates them.
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I think bombs are much more dangerous than rockets.
250kg + 2 50kg(iar-81c) + 250 kg + 4 50kg(ju 87) is much more dangerous than 12 weak M8 rockets.
And why do you think the P38 is a weak fighter? That thing is very reliable for dealing with the enemy.
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Maybe I am just used to the Japanese perspective, I’ve been playing a lot of them recently. But in my encounters, as long as a opposing P-38 does not have the energy to leave a encounter or takes you out immedietly, you’ve got them dead to rights. Yes they shred you if they can hit you, so there will be times when you think you’re flying alone and then your pilot just dies, but when you know where they are and you got the room to manouver you just dive into them to avoid the incoming fire and then turn back around to get them in return. I fear being suprised by a P-38, but I don’t fear confronting one.
As for the bombs vs rockets debate, I agree, bombs are more useful. Rockets are, however, situationaly stronger, and I can confirm that having played on the mostly open Japanese maps, rockets are a very strong tool, given the right cirumstances. Not to mention that Japanese tanks in that BR bracket are very vulnerable to the HVARs, so whilst they’re less useful as vehicle killers against Germany, they are very dangerous to Japan.
It should also not be underestimated that one of rockets biggest benefits is reach. Being able to target people without having to fly directly over them is a good trade for being less effective at taking out armour. Being able to lob rockets inside cramped streets or inside buildings is huge, and so is being able to skirt AA defences.
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Considering that the Corsair got bumped to br5 exactly because it’s a fighter with rockets… perhaps br2 is indeed too low. Br3 might be a good fit for it thought.
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But I’m a fan of the P38, for air combat, I even prefer them to the Mustang.
Yes, Japanese tanks are weak against HVAR, but in my experience, the M8 performs much better against German tanks. I have never had good results with the M8 against HO-I, but I can easily hunt down PZ IVs.
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FW 190 and P38 are in br3.
But as I said:
Okay, I’ve edited the topic now, please focus on the main topic.
Yes, but FW only has… 2… and still has broken flight model. It’s really unreliable.
P38 is really good though. Nothing to say about it 
Yes, but again, there’s only 2 and since you cannot really aim them correctly due to broken flight model AND that those rockets ALSO have dispersion… to kill tanks they also require direct hits.
So the rockets are only good if they can hit something, which is really difficult to do with them.
It’s also why almost no one use that plane…
It’s unreliable.
Might change if one day, the flight model finally gets fixed.
Two of them are much more deadly against infantry than 6 M8.
And against tanks, well I can’t comment, I’ve never tried to waste those rockets on tanks.
Oh, they work on tanks.
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If you can score a direct hit… which is pure luck because the flight model is broken and those rockets have high dispersion.
In truth the broken flight model is the reason why the plane got lower br last patch. A lazy fix… instead of making it work properly they just lowered it’s br…
Sometimes the Mustang and P47 shake too, what’s the problem? I never have a problem with some planes like the P38.
Have you played that FW-190 ? It has a super weird slide on one side of the plane for no reason making it very weird to use
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Yes, it makes it almost impossible to use that CAS model that includes the bomb.
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I personally won’t mind some more mustangs.
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