Morale - pointless discussion for record

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[poll type=regular chartType=bar close=2021-02-28T18:04:00.000Z]

  • I want morale
  • I don’t want morale
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    Plz, do not confuse morale and suppression.
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Context?

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I want to make sure that devs won’t do sth stupid because nobody wrote about it.

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how will morale be implemented?

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I mean what you’re asking for to begin with.

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exactly he is running puzzles

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I would do it a bit like in total war series.
Soldier has got some morale level, the more experienced the higher the base morale. Almost everything arround would affect morale: being under fire, being supprest, being shelled by art / mortar, friendly / enemy tank nearby, large nuber of friendly / enemy nearby, friendly / enemy CAS, etc.
If morale level is low enough AI will loose effectiveness, so slower agro, more focus on cover and maybe other things (I’m not a programer so I have no idea what is possible to implement).
If you want to go full in then at 0 morale they will runaway. This is extreme but if you want then why not.

I didn’t wrote it at the beginning because I thought nobody will take this idea seriously.

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Morale in an FPS is an absolutely horrible idea

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I know. This is why I called it “pointless discusion”, nobody would want to play this.

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That’s like War Thunder’s stamina system but worse all-around.

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I’m just throwing my support for you in, brother

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you have my support bro your idea is really good since we have so much ai

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That’s what happens when you assume you know what people think, but you don’t. Being intentionally vague didn’t help either.

Morale can mean a lot of things and not all of them are out of place in a shooter. Suppression mechanics are one such example. Forced retreat on the other hand is probably a bad idea, especially with how static and worthless bots currently are.

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Suppression is completely different story. You don’t have to be scared to try to avoid being shot. And I in 100% support implementation of this mechanic.

Maybe. But so far it seems that my assumptions were right and I don’t think votes will drastically change.

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This is a horrible mechanic that was tried in Red Orchestra 2, to the point that veteran soldiers (You reach level 80 with a class) would suppress nearby enemy soldiers by simply being near them.
It’s already bad with your vision getting blurry in this game when artillery drops close to you.

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but i need supression like squad or post scriptum

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I can understand twitching/ruining aim from incoming fire, it is a human reaction after all. But an explosion/machinegun outside of your bunker will not make you colourblind for a few seconds and would be a needless and unrealistic addition.

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humans fear death and that fear is suppression I guess but how small the maps are we will be suppressed the whole game length so suprresion you may be left out but head bobbing was added so …?

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Put it simply those kinds of mechanics aren’t fun at all. I already think the head waving after an explosion is a bit much.

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Somewhere else the dev’s have been noted as this game to be a milsim.

So suppression and neutralization should absolutely be in. They are not morale per so as in people running away - but they are replications of sensible actions people take to avoid dying when under actual incoming fire.

Especially for the bot’s - making them that bit more realistic is always going to be a good thing ™ at the moment IMO!