i dont deny impact of stack on result of the game. i just dont think that you had loads of stacks in majority of games. what impacted results is that you had lots of people with end game equipment vs newbies with starter one. you get same result, but it is mostly by solo players.
Yeah, Iām sure had an effect, too. It is never only about one thing. Thatās true.
But merge basically killed it entirely. Except for a few deluded individuals who canāt be bothered to even perceive the existence of something like the BR system. And with their event BR5 weapon and BR1 lineup, they head into battle.
But those are isolated individuals.
I really donāt think whether you kill an enemy with your full auto weapon on 1 or 2 shots makes of 800 rof has huge impact on the current balance of the game.
If it did, no one would be playing anything but Soviets.
But Enlisted simply doesnāt have a competitive core playerbase. And most people donāt minmax their lineups.
Thatās why it is so noticeable when you came across 4 coordinated people that does. Especially if you are solo player.
This is different, should I understand?
you either have the memory of a gold fish and forgot that the capture time differences were removed 2 years ago or you are lying on purpose.
BTW funny that you didnt show Berlin in which Soviets captured objectives twice as fastā¦
But ofc. Moscow in which the brave soviet mains were bot farming so DF gave Axis a measly 10% capture time boost as if that would have helped Beretta 38 (20) vs Ppsh41 drum or T-34 vs Panzer III Jā¦
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Nonsense
Well, when I play the game, I always calculate balance and faction performance with the best meta gear and fully equipped and leveled soldiers simply because thatās what I bring into every match - and so do those players that actually matter.
A good match usually has like 4 dedicated players per team that do 80% of the work - those most often bring vitality, body armor, upgraded Meta guns. Balance absolutely matters in a real battle.
Just because many matches are one sided shouldnāt be an excuse to neglect balance!
In my opinion as a mainly German player since beta, I want to say that balance is absolutely in one of the best spots it has ever been - but there still is some work to be done.
Germany has since the merge been powerful in BR1, this hasnāt changed.
BR2 now had been nerfed with the removal of Panzer III N, however I for example spammed Panzer III N like crazy - specifically because Soviet infantry has the upper hand.
Germany BR3 and BR4 have both been buffed, BR5 was never weak to begin with - if anthing Tiger II has been a big balance issue in the past.
Literally German BR2 SMGs need some love and broad balance will actually be really good.
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Itās funny how faction with 20+ BR2 SMGs is so desperate about getting good one.
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In old campaigns it took a long ass time to lvl up and players were really split, you were matched vs BR1-2 players constantly with your BR4-5 like Gear once you reached end of campaign.
So now itās completely irrelevant and misleading when it comes to the current Enlisted that removed campaigns and have MM with similar gear now everyone can feel anti-German bias at BR2-3-5, their smgs are rifles are all inferior and only at BR4-5 you can finally have some good guns, shame that their ARs now become inferior to overbuffed Fedorov.
Germany BR5 is now in miserable state when fighting vs ultra buffed Soviets i can carry team full of noobs with Fedorov MG/Avtomat and RD-44 all those three are superior to anything that Germany has plus i also have other toys like PPSh-41, Fedorov Rifle and RMN-50 that even at BR5 is highly effective while having a high ground, and also Turtle body armor.
Tigers were never a problem after giving them stolen Panzerfaust and Tiger can die in a single tnt unlike KV-1 that can tank 100 tnt packs unless you aim for specific spot.
Vs USA they are still very strong but they donāt really have a close range edge unless you are carrying a bulky mg close to you at all times or are a veteran with MP717(r) or have Conders. Kiraly was taken to BR4 for a good reason.
They just forwarded my suggestion of buffing M38/42 rof to 550rpm so we could get some new best BR2 smg for Germany especially if they buff itās vertical recoil. 632rpm at max upgrade would be a bit below PPS-42 and their 690 rpm
Shame about them not wanting to add new FNAB-43 with 550rpm (or more) and Mp40 model 7 (with up to 1100rof) to the game.
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Well I donāt see Tigers at Moscow, do you?
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Quantity < quality
When was the last time you played OVP or Beretta 1918?
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was just looking old weapon stats and wondered where did 25 round ppsh41 disappear.
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Well, itās strange that instead of improving some of them. Some dudes here keep wanting more and more smgs to be lowered into this pointless void. Sucking out any potential of having variety of arsenal on higher BRs.
And even more ridiculous is that most of those BR2 smg were perfectly fine for their BR. The only problem was with the 2 overperforming TT Soviet smgs and now 1 Thompson.
Now if only there wasnāt this absolutely insane obsession with reducing BR of weapons that made about 25 weapons across all factions (mainly German/US) totally obsolete and outdated. And if they instead had done something about the problematic ones.
But thatās something BR2 metahunters (mainly German) could never allow, they just want to bully newbies with powerful smgs.
Newbies that often doesnāt have more than 1 assaulter squad, doesnāt have vitality, doesnāt have max upgraded equipment, doesnāt have fully leveled squads.
Btw. Equipment balance on lower BRs never mattered much. Why? Because those teams are mostly made up of newbies with inconsistent performances and inexperience of the game. Those matches wonāt ever balanced.
Realistically, the only ones who give a shit about this unbalance are the seal clubbers who clash with each other while trying to dominate the newbies.
The only BR where balance should be at the first place is BR5.
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Yeah Iāve been playing decent amount of axis BR 2 leveling non meta squads and havenāt found myself being bullied by the pps-42/3.
The teams are on average so shit that it makes no difference, impossible to notice so far. And if by luck the other team is notably stronger or weaker, it still makes no difference either because youāll stomp / get stomped by bolts too.
Well, how can you buff those SMGs? Beretta/OVP are already very good guns per stats but are limited by their terrible sights.
MP40 is shooting either too slow or is too inaccurate to compete.
I think - IF OVP had a faster reload speed it would get rid of one of its weaknesses, but no matter how good the gun would be, it would simply stay unfun to play with.
FNAB-43 could shoot at bare minimum at 550rpm without delayed recoil i bet it could reach 700-800 rpm if not more.
completely agree on this. if i made BR i would have trash SMG on BR1-2 so BA are more viable, good SMG starting at BR3 competing with SA and excellent SMG on BR4-5. now all SMG basically get -1 BR from where they should be cause soviets dont have trash SMG in the game.
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Well I definitely wouldnāt go for the OVP and Beretta xD No matter how much you may want it, but weapons with the mag on top will never be good. And I find completely bizarre when minmaxers are trying to counter PPSs this way. GL HF, lol.
Plus if you keep reading my post, I donāt even think that some buff was necessary. BR2 weapons were completely ok.
They should have done something with those few overperforming smgs. Not buffing others on par with their level.
And there are a lot of ways how they can nerf weapons. From the simplest, of just replacing it with another one and putting it on a higher BR. Up to reducing dmg or dps, or increasing recoil, dispersion etc.
Developers should first determine what power level they want from BR2 smg in the first place.
Before they start balancing it by the best smg of the whole BR that could easily be BR3. Or maybe even higher.
If they donāt. It doesnāt matter if in the next update the Germans somehow get a BR2 smg that is at a comparable performance level to PPS/Uragan/Thompson.
It wonāt change the fact that most BR2 smg will be obsolete/outdated and no one will have a single reason to play anything other than the ones I mentioned.
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Very agreed. 95% German smg on BR2 - useless trash. Only mp 38 - mp 40 meta. No moreā¦
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