Medium and Heavy tanks in battle of moscow?

Well this is what we got. And there is no guarantees the devs will change nearly everything to get that “promised final product”

thats why since we have got something different there is no way a kv 1 should come into the game…did the germans had anything to deal it?

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The promised never land season 2 is Enlisted in disguise

In principle, yes. They had weapons that could destory a KV-1. But none of those weapons would really be useable in a balanced way.

Like that flak 88. You would maybe have a gun shield at most protecting you from rifle fire. It would have no movability. It would require time to set up, and get destroyed in a single hit by a tank.

I found this trailer and just wanted to put it here: Free access days / Enlisted - YouTube (go to 0:36)

They clearly wanted to put in the KV-1 and T-34 but either balance or broken damage prevented this. there is also some kind of German tank destroyer at 0:18

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I agree
Symmetrical balance will just make the game boring and turn it to budget BF V

Oh yeah, that tank destroyers is called marder 3.
That thing can be added to counter KV’s 34’s because it had a powerful gun

Marder 3.
It is a pz38t which had its turret replaced by an limited traverse anti-tank gun with nothing more than a gun shield to protect it from small arms fire frontally.

It would be mince meat for any infantrist just looking at it’s general direction as from the side or rear you can just shoot the crew with infantry weapons.

So you think that adding a tank that will literally die to a guy with a pistol will counter a KV-1 that literally dies to nothing else? It will still have the same issues as the flak 88 would have in that it has basically 0 protection, and the fact that it can drive around gets offset by the fact that the gun has only limited traverse angles.

There is a difference between asymmetrical balance and just giving one side the most brokenly OP gear you could imagine.

It’s almost as if the devs already thought of this and removed the tanks!

Dude, now you are just annoying.
Poll said that majority of players want the t34 with worse sights and we are again having this argument

You said it could coutner a KV-1.
I am answerring for the KV-1.
I did not mention the T-34.

I might be okay with a T-34 with limitations, but not a KV-1.

I’m okay with introducing t-34 without KV-1
T-34 was a bigger legend than KV-1 and is enough fast to avoid TNT packs

A T-34 would be an even bigger problem than the Panzer II.
Introducing tanks that most players will struggle to kill will create more problems.

SPGs wouldn’t be as vulnerable to infantry as many think, but they would be more vulnerable to tanks than many think as well.

How easy is it to get to a 15 degree angle from the front? because that’s how much the gun shield on a marder would protect.

You would need a lot more than 15 degrees.

From using towed AT guns as well, it usually takes quite a long time to get flanked despite being immobile.

No, the towed AT guns have buggy hitboxes. Asuming the tanks wont have those, you could shoot the loaders at least at such an angle.

they do have buggy hitboxes, but all the while I rarely see someone even get to enough of an angle for the bug to even factor in.

I saw all the vehicles and really miss them in game, I don’t see why there cant be imbalances or players choose to use lighter tanks, heavy at tanks, at a cost, to destroy the main BTs, I would love the see these vehicles back in the game.
The fact they were removed really doesnt make sense to me, if Russians had t-34 then, players on German side would have to build at guns or suicide bomb them.
It is not imbalance technically it would be a tactic to combat some of these vehicles…

Ok let’s buff German infantry to be immune to normal bullets to make up for the better tanks on the other nations. Fair trade? Just throw explosives at them, or suicide bomb them :clown_face: “it’s not imbalance technically it’s a tactic to kill them”

Please, stop whining about getting blatantly overpowered tanks for your main nations.

It is not whining, they added tanks in Alpha I just want them back, hence asking… I want more content that is all.

No, they REMOVED the tanks after alpha because they were overpowered.

There are still plenty of options for tanks and armored cars, like tank destroyers, self propelled guns, scout vehicles, halftracks, etc. There is no reason to rely on the dumb stuff.