The Game is becoming more and more unplayable. Lately there are a massive amount of deserters and in a halfway balanced match and you suddenly lose. There is no fun in playing like this.
The games are anyway often not balanced. But the deserters destroy any kind of balance.
The devs should really do something about this. There should be some real disincentive to desert during the game.
What exactly should they do about it? You have several camps of deserters about which you can not do anything.
Console players in crossplay.
Sorry to throw them under the bus, but as soon as they start loosing against PC players, they leave and it ain’t fun if these guys make half of your team. What to do about them then, disable crossplay overall? Very unlikely and if you wish to punish such desertion then they might as well turn it off themselves.
Newbies
Same as console, get clubbed by old player a bit too much or start loosing hard and they crumble. Punishment would only deter them from playing the game so no can do.
Winrate hunters
Idiots prone to leaving as soon as half their team is not stacked with gold rank players or you start to lose a little. Punishment for those is already in-game, being the reduction of rank points (do not know exact number), but it has no impact whatsoever anyway. You can not punish these either really cuz it might lead to them leaving the game, when the playerbase is not exactly large and given the fucked up steam release, will most likely not be receiveing any new surplus of newcomers.
one do not force people to join games in progress
-love getting sniped by tanks in the gray zone-
being up-tiered against players with full BR5 builds
-getting placed on a team that refuses to play the objective
playing a game mode/map that favors the attackers/defenders and being on the other team
-having no one build rally points while the enemy does
There is a difference between a loss and a steam roll
there is a massive penally you loose any booster if you enter a match and leave
the same time you would loose by leaving the match
how to fix
split the BR into three lobbies
give a bonus for finishing a match
I have deserted most of my games for the last few weeks due to horrible unbalanced teams. If there are no engineers i am out. Unbalanced games is the norm. I do not care if my ranks are low or get punished in whatever way for deserting. that is no solution to the problem. suppose there is a penalty , well then i just sit in a corner and click once a minute and sit the ride out without fighting or helping you. Enlisted is as dead as a door nail at certain hours.
I can understand deserting completely unbalanced games. But the last games I played with lots of deserters were not unbalanced. In fact we could have won the game if so many had not deserted.
seams doable but still dooms a team if sombody immideatly leaves
how do you even fix that? if they can sniper your squad the greyzone part does not really matter as it is far away anyway.
have fun finding enought players for BR ±0 or people will still compain about beeing uptiered
impossible to fix unless you start banning people for incompetence
hard to fix unless we discard any kind of historical maps in favor for generic 100% mirrored 3 way corridor maps with boxes randomly placed in the middle connecting the spawns.
It is kinda sad to see how the community loves to bitch about how it isnt their own fault, but actually that of DF, for deserting 24/7 the matches whlie beeing incapable of coming up any solutions for those problems outside of “just fix that” in most cases.
DF had cultivated a playerbase that prefers to bitch and desert over doing the work and dealing with it due to its failure keep up the apearence that it would police detremental behavior to the game.
In retrospect this post might sound a bit aggressice but is in no way meant personal but just me ranting my frustration with the community as a whole.
You fix it by making your shots not count when firing from the grey zone.
It happens when the defending team has to fall back. If you’re frontline, eventually, your shots won’t count. Why can’t this be the same when you’re in a grey zone?
detect high desertion rate against pc players? send a pop up that says we notice you disconnect frequently against pc players, did you know you can disable crossplay / set it to console only? and point them to the option.
I’ve been wanting new player matchmaking to be expanded a while. Setting it so that you have to complete Tier I (the yellow bar atop the tree) would make it far more effective, plus would put many more into the matchmaking where you would see more players in it too. 2 things though:
A: Should it be per faction, or if you’ve completed a Tier I you are good. I’m ok with both of these.
B: It should take into account that if you are partied with a non new player, it puts you in standard MM for the duration or until you no longer have a non new player with you.
Rank point reduction means very little, and you currently get only 70% XP if you desert. IMO, I would like see 2 things:
A: PVE mode where you can just play against bots if you like for say 50% xp and no xp modifiers
B: Leaving a match locks the faction in that match, you will need to either rejoin (within x minutes) that match, or play another faction in the interim. You will get a loss or win depending on what happens in that match.
It is never going to be completely competitive because of the different level of skill by each player. Some people are natural players while others suck no matter what weapons or level they are playing at. Some people make zero effort at any of the game’s objectives, they just want to go rogue roaming the countryside searching for kills. Most people desert out of frustration.
To me, keeping the levels at or no more then one tier up (1-2, 3-4, 4-5 or 5 alone). Penalizing people for deserting is only going to piss them off.
I have said this before to end the ranking system since some people are addicted to simply climbing the ranks, so why should they sit through a shower rape session when they can click quit and regroup the next match?
Pay “BOTH” sides the same scale of coins whether their team wins or loses. So, if you finish number one on YOUR team (regardless if your side won or lost), you get paid the same. This way there is more incentive to stay and endure the ass whipping. Silver wise your mainly competing with the people on YOUR own team. I mean, it is a double mudhole stomped in your butt if you stay to endure the shower rape, then not get jack s**t in coins for your trouble.
The only other option I would see is for DF to simply remove the quit the battle option from the screen so literally you would have to hit ctrl-alt-del to end the game, but you would also have to restart Enlisted and would most likely be a little pissed about it .
Just giving people incentive to stay is a much better solution then punishing them if they leave IMOP.
If you give players the option to grind without having to ever deal with the incompetence or toxicity of others, everyone will take it, even I would. Having 50% gains is not much of a deal breaker if you do not have to deal with AP mines spam, grey zone camping or suicide divers since AI is not capable of such gameplay. Sure you might get aimbotted a few times, but you might as well take an HMG or a tank and just sit in a single spot the entire game and farm.
Just make sure it also counts for Events and hell, just grind bots to 10k each game and even with getting only half of that, it would take 4 games to finish the current bi-daily event, for the others it might even take less since those ones are usually about weapon kills/rally points.
Given they have not yet introduced reliable option to reconnect, I doubt this could work and locking out a faction would just result in people sitting in a match griefing or being AFK anyway, so you basically hurt the team more than if they left and were replaced by AI.
the reconnect option is reliable … but it does have a bit too short of a window … expanding it a bit so people that have longer load times would be a much appreciated change.
If you have console players being half of your team then this round is already lost as soon as it started. I don’t want to make any discriminatory comments, but obviously Enlisted has done a terrible job in cross platform and controller adaptation.
80% of the time, I cannot see console players in BR III-V, while the console players I see in BR I-III can be predicted to have 80% not passed Tier I on the tech tree, and they are like don’t know that, for example, vehicles are not for just driving away, doing nothing, and getting themselves killed.
What really annoys me is that my experience is exactly the opposite of yours: the console players I encounter are just constantly being slaughtered, without any communication, and of course, they didn’t quit, which I was hoping as Bots are better than them.
The window is too short as is, I sometimes have problems due to my laptop overheating and going sleep mode if I do not give it enough air intake and just taking a 1 min to fix the problem is enough to get me out of the game completely, sure it works, but its implementation is poor.
Cowards and losers the lot of em. Don’t queue into my lobby if you ain’t gonna play the game. Taking up valuable teammate slots that I need people with the pair to see a match through to the end win or lose. I swear I will never understand these people who desert every match