Making the first fg42 usefull

well the FG42 II have good Rof (sometimes is a curse) and 15.3 damage with a decent recoil and very inconsistent dispersion (but for some reason i noticed that if you stand still u will not be affected so much by the dispersion maybe its just my perception lol or maybe this gun somehow work like a mg)

but this isnt the main topic we have on the TT the almost useless first model of fg42 so i had an idea to make it playable along with the fact to have more variety as soviets that can use AVS with little recoil or a 20 rounds AVT or just use the standard AVT

this change is as simple as keeping the same damage (15.3), but reducing the Fire rate from 990 to 600 and increasing its accuracity from 0.25 to 0.21-0.20 (similar as T20) so that way we have a fast firing SF like avs and Carabine M2 but at same time SF with less rof but increased accuracity

also when body armor for all nations by free / or being removed from the game?

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The FG-42-I niche is that its the faster firing, cqc oriented FG rifle. Giving it such a low rof would just be a massive nerf and useless compared to FG-II

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true but as far i know this is the configuration that have 600 rof (not 100% sure)

iss good to have a high rof SF but at same time GE needs some kind of ““slow firing”” but more accurate

That configuration has 900 rof according to articles from the time etc

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so which Version have the 600 config?

Depending on the trial document or handbook, FG 42 I sits between 780-900 RPM, and the FG 42 II sits at 600-750 RPM.

Aside from small things like recoil control, lack of bayonet etc, the FGs are in a good spot right now.

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none.
FG42 had a fire of 900 rpm which was later lowered to 750 rpm than the stock and other details were upgraded which is commonly referred to as FG42 II for simplicity, that had kept the 750 rpm.
600 rpm is a miscalculation since fire rate was difficult to calculate back in the days.

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How About Bringing it Down To BR3 give it a 10 Round Mag and Make It Semi-Auto Only

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We got the update that made FG-42-1 historically accurate while also giving it a niche where it’s better than FG-42-2, and dude is asking to revert it :sob:

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honestly i ddint know there was no 600 rof version when it comes to this statements so well basically best we can do its to ask for FG42 II bayonet since idk another way to actually make this gun “equivalent to the AVT 20”

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huh? why on earth would FG42 II and AVT-40 20 need be the exact same?
AVT-40 has higher muzzle velocity, better dispersion and lower fire rate which is better for long range shooting.
FG42 II has high fire rate and slightly lower recoil which is good for room clearing.

They are balanced.
Soviets are only crying about fire rate because there is nothing else for them to whine about, but its complete none sense to complain about the fire rate of one shot kill guns.

The AVT could arguably have it’s RoF increased (DELAVR made a post about it recently), but there was some variance, depending on the gas setting.

I’m happy with where the AVT- 40 20 is going to be. Only thing left to really bring Select Fires to perfect parity is finding an appropriate 7.7mm Select Fire for Japan (which isn’t even all that necessary either).

well good to hear so tecnically we have archived balance on this aspect

we just need the cherry on the cake the bayonet on the FG42 II and it would be perfect

time to go once again into low tier and complain abt the Uragan Smg : V

Didn’t you say before that 990 rof is debuff?Oh, high rof is only debuff for Soviet weapons.

You are well aware that high rof is useful.Because this is a German weapon, you refuse to acknowledge it as an advantage.

Now these guys who oppose increasing the rof of AVS under the pretext of “this is debuff” have come out, they oppose reducing the rof of FG42. :rofl:


The Soviet mains weakened FG42 by demanding 990rof. Oh, that’s so interesting.
I didn’t do it :raised_hand_with_fingers_splayed: :sob: :raised_back_of_hand:, because I agreed to lower the rof of FG42.

Since you think AVT (20) is perfect, this topic sounds like it will give you Germany’s AVT (20), why refuse?

Thats cherry picked, lets not ignore this part:

Which one happens more often, CQC or medium-long range?
Not to mention that there are other weapons for CQC such as RD44/MG42, Ppsh/Kiraly.

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The Kiraly 39M honestly in my opinion kinda sucks, I only use it for my tankers cause it’s only good for hitting French men that try to blow me up. I really hope next update we’ll get either the Suomi that’s in the files WITH A Different muzzle and 71 drum mag or The premium Suomi but with a 50 round coffin magazine for the German TT

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In your opinion the best SMG in the entire game kinda sucks. Funny.

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