They made it so you can keep aiming between shots with the Mannlicher M95, so I think it would be better for consistency to allow you to do it with the M93 as well.
The M1893 rifle had a conventional turn-bolt design, unlike the M1895 which is straight-pull.
Having the “aiming down the sights” mechanic (please someone come up with a better name) is based on if the bolt could be comfortably operated without moving your head. That’s the case for straight-pull rifles (one of the reasons this system was designed), and some* regular bolt-action rifles, but those regular rifles were often noted as being unusally capable of this feat.
I’m not saying the M1893 couldn’t be shot this way, but it lies on you (being the one to request this feature) to prove that it could be, otherwise I highly doubt they’ll add it to it.
I think the feature should just be added to all bolt actions anyway. Its meant for “straight pull bolt” weapons yet the 2 biggest benefactors of the mechanic are the Winchester (a lever action) and the Lee-Enfield (a rotating bolt rifle)
The feature has made using those 2 weapons, as well as the 95 (I havent used any other guns with the new mechanic) incredibly fun and satistfying to use, and massively increasing their viability.
Its such a fun mechanic and very satisfying, I’d honestly love to see it on every bolt action.
No bolt to pull and possibly hit your face, makes perfect sense why this rifle got this mechanic.
The Enfield rifles are famously known to be a exception to the rule, possibly due to their rear locking lugs and cock-on-close action, combined with the position of the typical shooters face being far enough behind to let you cycle the bolt comfortably.
None of these inclusions are in any way arbitrary, they are entierly based on the real world attributes of the guns in question. Asking for this feature to be on all weapons is the same as asking for burst fire mode on all SF rifles, or semi-auto on SMGs that never had it, they just weren’t capable of it in real life and thus shouldn’t be a thing in the game.
Since we’re going for the realistic (unfun) route, we should nerf the rate of fire of all bolt actions in the game
Since the Lee-Enfield can only do 20-30 aimed shots per minute by a well trained soldier, we should more than half the current rof from 69 to 25 or something.
The mechanic is so much fun and more comfortable to use. Its not at all like the other things you said xD
You’re confusing “rate of fire” with “effective rate of fire”, that 20-30 rounds a minute does not acount for the multiple times you need to reload, and neither does the rate of fire stat in game.
All of that being said, you need not look long for video examples of guys firing way faster than the 69 rounds a minute (taking the average time to empty the gun from 10 rounds across a whole minute), here’s but one with the guy clearly aiming down the sights as well:
He even fumbles, still goes fast.
I am aware, I just wanted to see if I could save silver since I have 30 M93s and 1 M95
But is he hitting anything? And the lack of recoil would indicate hes using blanks possibly
Also
" World record
A sketch of the Second Class Figure target used in the original Mad Minute Classification Exercise. The 12" aiming mark resembles the silhouette of a soldier. 3 points are scored for hits within the inner 24" circle, 2 points are scored for hits within the outer 36" circle and 1 point is scored for hits within the 48" square
The term ‘Mad Minute’ was also used to describe a regular demonstration, by instructors at the School of Musketry at Hythe, Kent, that was intended to show officer trainees the maximum rate of accurate fire that could be achieved by an expert with a service rifle.
The first Mad Minute record was set by Sergeant Major Jesse Wallingford in 1908, scoring 36 hits on a 48-inch target at 300 yards (4.5 mils / 15.3 moa).[1]
Another world record of 38 hits, all within the 24 inch target at 300 yards (2.25 mils / 7.6 moa), is said to have been set in about 1914 by a Sergt.-Instructor Snoxall.[2] "
Comparing the world record of 38 to the world record of 77 we could get in Enlisted is quite a contrast huh.
A Mad Minute event was held in Soknedal, Norway, on 30 May 2015 … The average score, of 11 shooters, was 29.
Up to the player if they want to fire so fast that they’re unlikely to hit anything. Accuare ranged fire is indeed different to just madly cycling the bolt, well done for spotting that.
What kind of a false equivelance is this anyway? Why should people be forced to slow down, their right to wase ammunition I say. How is this relevant?
However entertaining this conversation is, your gotcha isn’t really worth much in the end, as my stance on the topic is already public knowledge. Remove Rate of Fire increase from weapon upgrades
Yet you could land 77 perfectly aimed shots in Enlisted. You cannot do that irl
That is what I was trying to explain to you
Why must a game be limited by what is “realistic” ? That is not as fun as it can be
Not adding the bolt mechanic to all the bolt actions is less fun, and for what?
I doubt you can do that in the game either, especially not at range, but maybe you’re a ranged god, who’s to say?
Unfortuantely, you’re stuck playing a game that depicts real weapons and vehicles, with different stats tied to the weapons real life performance. I doubt people whould be interested in playing “generic squad shooter, the game”, where all weapons are only different by gun type, they all do the same thing and are not based on any real world weaponry at all, “because we don’t want the real world to impact the fun of our players”.
I doubt many would enjoy that game, otherwise why is this a WW2 shooter if WW2 wasn’t a interesting selling point by itself? You’re free to pick out the weapons you like, but some of us actually enjoy the setting we all play with, no need to drag everyone else with you.
You can shoot this way with any bolt action. Just a by the way. Its not limited to the Lee Enfields design
That’s a kid, not a typical adult male.
The difference is that the Lee-Enfield was usually operated in a different way, with the index finger operating the bolt and the middle finger shooting the round. This lets them shoot faster as they do not have to change the position of their index finger (as the guy on your video with the K98 does).
PS - you can sort of see this on @OggeKing 's video, unfortunately the guy is turned the other way so its hard to tell that he is using his middle finger to fire.
He’s also clearly moving his head, doesn’t look like much but enough to make the sights worse than useless.
You’re now confusing “comfortable aiming whilst cycling the bolt” with “just cycling the bolt very fast”.
I challenge you to fire 5 shots with Mosin Nagant without moving your cheek away from the rifle lol
The strong Soviet worker accepts the bruises on their cheek.
Don’t say that! She’s gonna cry about how realism is ruining the game!!!
“My bolt action no clips through my cheek for comrade Stalin!”