Machinegun abuse

For the love of God provide some balancing to the unbearable machine gun spam. Vast majority of the battles shouldn’t be take mg squad 1, mg squad 2 possibly premium mg squad, ideally stack as many lmg soldiers in remaining squads and then go ham charging and hipfiring 15-25kg squad support weapons.

Either kill their ability to accurately fire on the move, drastically increasing their recoil when doing so, like you have on certain guns already; put hard caps on the number of mg gunners in mg squads, giving people some reason to use anything else or straight up remove “mobile” mg gunners. Make machineguns more clunky and more similar to the AT cannons or at least AT rifles, requiring a few seconds to setup, powerful in ambush, support and defence, rather than having them a superior alternative to room clearing to most SMGs, superior alternative to mid range brawling to most semi-autos and occasionally superior to bolt actions in longer range engagements.

At the very least make them somewhat in line with their counterpart. MG34s are not remotely comparable to the madson or bren. Putting the browning against that spoon japanese mg is also a joke. I’m not saying kill the BAR or the german MGs, they should be good, but there should be some par between faction weapons. God knows there are earlier, less capable options to these seal clubbers. Lighter, more portable options that make sense to be fired while standing up or moving. Quite a few are in the game already. And sure as hell the current “ecosystem” is heavily favoring these, and why shouldn’t it? I’m using and abusing them myself. I’m a fairly decent shot with a rifle, so maybe 10-20 kills in half as many minutes under ideal conditions against competent players. I shouldn’t be able to park my squad in a shed, charge with an lmg, spray 2-3 clips and get the same number of kills, per soldier, in 1-2 minutes. Then repeat ad nauseum.

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It should be done but it requires bipod/mounting mechanic to work well.
And it basically doesn’t work since it was introduced 2 years ago.

MG34 shouldn’t be comparable to bren, nor any other MG from WW2 to be honest. It’s like complaining Kar98k isn’t comparable to M1 Garand.
German MGs were much more modern and generally better than allied MGs.

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unironically, lmgs are kinda rare.

and they are supposed to be good.

especially for the germans since it was the backbone of the wehrmacht as they say

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We only just got any kind of accuracy in the LMGs back I’m not giving up a functional class again because you’re bad

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In what campaign, exactly, are they rare? No, seriously? And it was the backbone of the german infantry, and not only german infantry squad for a long, long time. ONE lmg in squad fire support on nine or so riflemen. Not 6-7 soldiers with MGs charging the enemy and hipfiring. Their assault squads in 45’ had, ideally two squads of STG armed troopers and a support squad with 2-3 MG42s staying back and supporting the attack or providing covering fire. They never picked them up and charged a house with them.

I’m glad you’re having your fun but no need to be a dick about it.

I’m not giving up lmgs again because the only lmg that’s even remotely good for what you described is the browning 1918 and that goes for all of them including the polish one, german mgs are better for holding sites with

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Those dont exist dude what you talk are 5 man premium MG squad, and as far i see no premium MG is better and give you unfair advantage than what you can unlock early in the progression

Machinegunner have something called “movement dispersion penality”, run and gun in cqc is impossibile for them outiside using a BAR or Rd44, because their MG start firing like a shotgun

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Don’t kill them. Don’t nerf them. Don’t remove them. Alright. Just have them as valuable, and rare, support squad mates that they should be. They shouldn’t fill the role of ARs. Have them retain their superior firepower, as they should, but limit their mobility.

Perhaps split the gunner into automatic rifle gunners that have BARs, FGs, Chauchets etc and have lmg gunners that can emplace their actual LMG? Not necessarily have them build a nest, simply a working bipod mechanic for one.

Even without max upgrades on the weapon and recoil reduction you can’t clear entire squads in seconds? Must have dreamt up my last 30 games in berlin and normandy.

almost in all campaigns you don’t see them as much as smgs so…

Your last 10 game and more was in moscow farming axis bot, what is your point, axis bot with MG OP?



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Since AI is quite good with hipfiring MGs it may be the case.

When they dont stuck looking the sky, but is true for every gun

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Would be nice farming axis bots and not fighting off angry russians playing angry soviets :rofl:

Thing is, bots seem to gain several braincells the moment you give them an LMG, or any automatic that is not an SMG for that matter. Maybe it’s because they they nerfed bots with SMG so they only work at point blank, but honestly who knows.

Dude i watched your replay list, all time on allied side for more than 15 battle farming axis bot

Dont take us for idiot please

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Not generally, they WERE the best MGs.

I mean modern countries still use the MG3 which is a very similar, basically the same version of the MG42.

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I know but if you admitt germans had something superior you may be called a wechraboo so I wanted to avoid that.

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Aktdhkually you seem to not understand how superior the soviet weaponRnuryry was, thats whY tHeY won with minimal casualtIEs bro

Also why are you still on this forum, and why i am still here? :smiley: We both lost hope long ago

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You’ve got the toxicity of a chernobil reactor pit, dude. Man gets his event squad, takes it out for a try a couple of games and so what? Make an effort to say, look, I’ve got this argument and, look, it’s like this. Don’t just pull some lame cop-out without even considering anything else.

And I don’t know what servers you play on but on eastern and europe the germans are rarely bots.

Big news about big update. Wait, observe, adapt.
Mainly wait.

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