I’m hoping the devs see this but please change the Machine Gun Nest to be faction specific! the Allies shouldn’t build MG42’s when they are axis guns. The Russian’s should build a DT gun or DP and the American’s should build a Browning or something related! 
just a small change that would make the game more diverse!
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Yes
Yes
No and no
Depends what you mean
I have no idea why people are ok with MG nests being LMGs (no matter which ones) on sandbags. They are unrealistic, don’t make any sense and look ugly as hell.
Why would anyone want this? Please explain it to me.
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if i’m not mistaken, devs are already working on this
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Moscow: MG34 tripod, Maxim machinegun
Normandy: MG42, Browning tripod
Tunisia: Fiat–Revelli Modello 1935, Vickers machine gun
Berlin: MG42, SG-43 Goryunov
Snail lord please!
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I agree, we need engineers to start getting faction specific entities, even if they perform identically to what we have.
I dont much care that we have 5 unique factions, 4 unique eras of technology and all 8 engineer squads build the quad KwK 20mm AAA.
For MG nests:
Allies get M2HB .50 (the 1919A6 should be a gunner weapon, not a fixed position building)
moscow/tunisia axis should get MG-34s (especially moscow, MG-42 in 1941 campaign really) and Normandy/Berlin axis should get MG-42s
Moscow Allies get a Maxim HMG
Berlin Allies get a 12.7mm DShK
Tunisia Allies can have multiple options, I’d propose the Lewis gun, the Vickers or the Browning M1917
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They should also be quicker to build and less prone to bugging out
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Yeah, 1919A6 should be gunner weapon, but that doesn’t mean that 1919A4 version can’t be used as a stationary MG.
It would be much better both accuracy and balance wise.
Again, SG-43 exists, no need to to for the high caliber when there is both accurate nad more balanced option.
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I just picked guns that were already in the game but those are the only I know so I should have worded this differently to open up a discussion for the off chance the devs DO see this. I don’t really care what guns the MG Nest should be, all I’d really like to see is the change happen. I just recently (finally) made it to the Engineer II’s and was a little confused when I built a German gun, lol. I’d like to hear your thoughts
I also forgot to mention I’m playing as the Allies in the Battle of Berlin, so that should explain my confusion, lol
If i remember correctly, devs stated some time ago, that the current MG42 as well as Flak 38 are placeholders and will be replaced with nation specific weaponry. It’s just not at high priority.
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50 cal = no
30 cal = sure thing
DP gun = sure why not
maxim with shield = hell no
No.
I’ll never agree for LMGs on sandbags. If you don’t like maxim with shield, invent the time machine and tell soviets to a make better MG. Sorry but I won’t change my mind.
well what other option is there ? a maxim without shield? or a dushka?
having a light MG is “weak” yes, but a shielded MG would be absolutely game breaking right?
Why?
As far as I know it protected only against schrapnel.
So only “but” may be that the shield obstructs vision too much.
the higher calibre is a balancing aspect to the absurd fire rates of the MG-42s. One shot kill isnt so OP when the enemy gun can put 2-3x as much lead downrange in the same span of time.
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Let me remind you that MG42s in Enlisted are a handicapped versions with much lower firerate than it should have (800-900 instead of 1200). You have your “balancing aspect” already. They will most likely also overheat faster.
Browning M1919A4 is enough to fullfill the role of stationary MG for Allies, there is no need to give them MG nest that, let me remind is capable of destroying Pumas too. It was also standard stationary MG during WW2, so why should it be replaced by M2 that was used primarily on vehicles and in anti-armour or AA role.
Do not go for the way of balancing things according to their DPS or something similar, it is a very dangerous path that we will not want to see in Enlisted.
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alright, if you dont want to go down DPS and feature vs feature, then how about consistency?
we already grind through 2 BARs and 3 thompsons in normandy. Axis have 2 MG-34s, and if more versions of the STG-44 get added the problem only compounds. Why would i bother grinding to level Engineers to build up an MG nest just to use a weapon that i can have 3 of in an MG squad, or one of in most other squads by choosing to take a gunner? We already have this issue being talked about in every campaign; Moscow has like 5 different Mosin rifles to grind through, half of Tunisia is just lower level Normandy (STEN, enfield 4, Garand, Thompson, BREN…), the formerly addressed normandy items, and even in berlin by way of the PPS-42 and PPS-43 and even more Mosins.
If devs ever add the A6 as an LMG, i’d never use the engineer II because an LMG, radio or bomber squad with an A6 is much stronger and infintely more useful than a guy with a garand who can build a permanent MG emplacement.
MG nest role is to provide dedicated engineer squad with additional defensive firepower. If you just want the weapon then it’s obvious that you will go for the other squads.
But if you are playing as engineer squad it’s good to have more firepower without loosing the possibility to build as many fortifications as possible. And as I said before, M1919A4, MGs or Maxim/SG-43 (depending on the campaign) are enough for that role.
The advantage of the stationary MG over LMGs is also unlimited ammo and the possibility to rebuild them. If you loose LMG gunner, the weapon is gone (sure, you can pick it up, but you can’t refill it from the ammo box). Meanwhile stationary MG can be rebuild over and over as long as you have resources (and that shouldn’t be a problem for 5-6 engies)
Another thing is that if M1919A6 gets added, it will be on the 35+ level, which is pretty long time to grind. Meanwhile you get engineer II squad around 20 level, so it’s much easier for the majority of players to get there. That way players could enjoy their M1919 much earlier.
Also: you say that 2 “same” weapons like 1919A4 and A6 are too much for you, but what should Axis players say in that case? They already unlock MG-34 and MG-42 in almost all campaigns, yet somehow you’re fine with another MG-42 being their stationary MG nest.
Why aren’t we going for the 13mm MG131 adapted for the ground use, with around 900 rpm firerate? Here’s the answer - we don’t do that because it was not a standard stationary MG for german infantry. Same as M2 and DSzK - they were mainly used for AA role. M1919, Maxim and SG-43 are the way to go.
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