KV-2 got beeeg gun yes yes! beeg gun 1 bang enemy yes yes yes! but kv2 slow slow, kv2 head turn slooooow, and kv2 pew pew time slooooooow.
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fuck it might as well if they lower StuG III F to BR2, than Axis will be able to pen the KV-2 without issue.
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its basically like kv1 but with beeg gun and a bigger target with the same kv1 armor thickness
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KV-1 armour is already over powered for BR3 so the “its just a KV-1 with” is BS.
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Its armor is undoubtedly worse than KV-1, and you can only choose KV-1 or KV-2 unless you spend money.Although the KV-2 (1940) had an additional machine gun, but Pz.3 M was clearly more P2W than the KV-2.
“The German 150mm gun must have a loading time of 9 seconds, but the KV-2 with a loading time of 27 seconds cannot have armor.” 
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For the love of God, please STOP POWER CREEPING LOW BRs
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tbh I dont think its power creep here, the KV-1 and T-34’s will still be better all rounder vehicles than the KV-2
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It would make other factions demand certain vehicles to be downtiered, and so on. My Br2 heaven will be ruined 
Since it reloads so slowly I consider it a “meme” tank.
By all means both KV2 should be lowered br!
Like almost all TDs. KV2 and tank destroyers both suffer uptiered br because of their canons, while all their other shortcomings are not taken into consideration.
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What other vehicles? What BR4 german vehicle could possibly be equal to the KV-2? The Brumbar is as close as it gets but even that has better armour and a better reload at the cost of being a casemate so could easily be justified to stay in BR4. Not to mention not in the game yet.
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Good point, but still worried that it will upset the balance tho. Fuck it, agree with @Conscript, downtier TD’s and its a deal
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Yeah I have been calling for TDs to go down for a long time now, I mean the Stug3F is one of my most cited vehicle that needs to go down, like you can make an argument for the 3G to stay in BR3, but the 3F is hilariously underpowered for BR3 but would fit perfectly in BR2, that and the marder as well, that has no business being BR3, doesnt matter if it has a better gun technically.
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Back then, I was against lowering KV2 to BR3.
But based on experience and additional arguments of some people, I really don’t think it would be a big deal to lower both KV-2 to BR3.
Or
They could keep it on BR3 and significantly reduce its reload speed. To make it actually fun to play. Something like 13-16 sec or so.
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Yes, that’s what we need.
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Honestly, I wish the game could introduce a mechanic where you could activate full crew support for reloads - basically some of those howitzer tanks get the ability to “deploy” their tank so to speak, which disables movement, but in return they get a 20% faster reload time. That would really help some tanks out.
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KV-2 1939 should be premium BRIII
KV-2 1940 should be TT BRIV
But this is too late
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how about as long as the kv2 is fully stop it, the reload time decrease
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If a machine gun can make you feel like it’s should in BR4, then Pz.3M should undoubtedly be in BR3.
Don’t forget, KV-2 (1940) has a worse depression angle.If it is still in the BR4, then it must be one of the least worth buying tanks.
playing br2 and uptiering to br3 with soviet KV spammers is absolutely awful because you’re stuck with the shitty low BR AT cannon
i would tolerate the KV1 and KV2s in BR3 if engineers can build the 75mm PAK cannons, remove the HE from the PAK cannons too and it’ll be peachy